Hi there: one of the other problems I am having is that if I log out and log back in again jaws will not read the system tray at all I have found the only way to correct this is to reload jaws. At times I also get the desktop menu of cut copy so forth. So for example if I click on an icon in the system tray and I get that menu I will go back to the system tray with insert f 11 again and use the right click button if I used and her or space the last time Not sure if this is still true I have not been keeping up on my msaa bugs the way I used to part of my getting away from windows I guess. But msaa used to have an issue when you logged out that unless you reloaded the event manager msaa would lose things like the system tray and other events. Also in some cases when logging out and logging back in the system tray setting get a little whacked out. In this case you should restart windows. Note unless you have a good reason for logging out you probably should not do it. If you just want to switch users best thing to do is restart windows and have the next user do the log in and when they are done log in fresh with another restart.=20 -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx