Daniel, It's something to do with how JAWS reads the screen. Basically a model of the entire screen sits in memory somewhere and the JAWS software uses that model of the screen to speak to us. Very complicated and you've just reached the limit of my expertise. Any more thoughts from me will be suspiciously speculative and likely misleading. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel McGee To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 15:33 Subject: Re: refreshing pages in internet explorer with jaws Hi, what does the "jaws model" mean technically? I understand the F5 command and so far understand that Jaws key plus escape is a Jaws command (not a windows command) but was just wondering when doing the jaws command what does that do different from the F5 one. Many Thanks Daniel From: robert Doc Wright Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:37 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: refreshing pages in internet explorer with jaws jaws key + escape updates the screen according to jaws help ins escape repaints all currently displayed items on the screen. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Shumate To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: Re: refreshing pages in internet explorer with jaws It doesn't refresh the screen by telling you the percentage. When I press f 5 it does so, but not when I press the escape Key. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: refreshing pages in internet explorer with jaws It refreshes the screen. Probably cleans up and realigns the underlying object model that JAWS uses, but then I'm not an expert on that stuff. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: alice dampman Humel To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:46 Subject: Re: refreshing pages in internet explorer with jaws Hi, Dave, What does ins plus escape do? Thanks. Alice alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: refreshing pages in internet explorer with jaws Laura, Ins+Esc is a JAWS command that refreshes the object model for viewing the page. It is not the same as the F5 key for IE. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Shumate To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 14:09 Subject: Re: refreshing pages in internet explorer with jaws No f 5 actually refreshes the page. I tried using the escape key but the webpage I find odesn't refresh if you use that command. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel McGee To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: refreshing pages in internet explorer with jaws hi guys, just cureious has anyone been refreshing pages lately with Jaws key plus escape in internet explorer 8? just cureious cos i've notice that on the NVDA website when you enter it you have to hit this command otherwise jaws doesn't work. its not a problem but I just wondered what's the difference between that command and command F5 are they the same thing? Many Thanks Daniel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 07:35:00