I don't know about some of this. When I labeled the buttons, I think I had to reduce the minimum graphic size to see them. Then I didn't use the labeler, I would put the jaws cursor on a graphic, then read the status line which read what I assume to be the tool tip. You could always turn off the Microsoft Viewer long enough to try to label the graphic, or long enough to read the tooltip if it can't be read with the viewer active, then reactivate the viewer. Dean -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx