I will try this method of using the Run command rather than a desktop shortcut to restart JAWS next time, and see if it makes any difference. I do know this much. When I unload JAWS using ALT-F4 or from the File Menu and choosing Exit, the program is NOT still listed as running in the Task Manager. And also, when I restart JAWS on this one machine I am mentioning, the JAWS program does appear in the Task Bar and you can ALT-TAB around and go through the options and see that speech is turned ON but no sound will it peep or speak. No matter what. Not until I close all apps and reboot the system. With my other pc, I can start and close JAWS. It does sometimes load more slowly. Both of these desktops are pretty slow and have their appetites for causing grief. But the JAWS issue has been on it since maybe JAWS 7 or so and each subsequent upgrade the problem has persisted. I thought it might be a Registry thing, and I tried feebly to fix that, but no, thus far, no luck. Both of these machines are Pentium 2.66 GHz with 512 MB of RAM. Yes, that used to be fast enough. Now they indeed be quite the slow puppies to the chowder bowl. Thanks for any help. Rick From: dave-d0619 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:04 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: problems when starting and restarting JAWS Chris: I am going to clarify what I wrote in my last email message for other list members. . Since JAWS Version 7, you can use the "Run" command and type "JAWS", followed by the version number (with no spaces or punctuation marks, such as a period for "dot"), of JAWS you want to run (assuming that the version of JAWS you want to run is installed on your computer, of course). Try one of the following examples: jaws7 jaws71 jaws8 jaws9 jaws10 followed by pressing ENTER, to start JAWS for the first time in a Windows session (that is if you did not have JAWS set to start automatically, when Windows starts), or to restart JAWS if you had to unload JAWS for a particular reason. HTH Sincerely: Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: Mullins, Chris To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 AM Subject: RE: problems when starting and restarting JAWS Thanks Dave, I wasn't aware of that. I tried it and had to type JAWS71, so it looks like you need to put in the version number without any periods. Cheers Chris Mullins Application Developer First Data Nottingham (EH2C) Embankment House | Electric Avenue | NOTTINGHAM | NG80 1EH (NG2 1RU for Sat Nav) T:0115 883 5751 Mailto:Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dave-d0619 Sent: 30 July 2009 11:37 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: problems when starting and restarting JAWS Chris and listers: Since JAWS Version 7, you can use the "Run" command and type "JAWS7", "JAWS8", "JAWS9", "JAWS10", followed by pressing ENTER, to start JAWS for the first time in a Windows session (that is if you did not have JAWS set to start automatically, when Windows starts), or to restart JAWS if you had to unload JAWS for a particular reason. HTH Sincerely: Dave durber ----- Original Message ----- From: Mullins, Chris To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:08 AM Subject: RE: problems when starting and restarting JAWS Rick Presumably you terminate Jaws using Insert f4 and attempt to restart using alt control j or your own substitute hotkey? Have you checked the shortcut on the desktop to ensure that (A) Alt control j or your own substitute is correctly assigned as the shortcut key (B) The path to the required version of Jaws is correctly defined as the Target. Cheers Chris Mullins Application Developer First Data Nottingham (EH2C) Embankment House | Electric Avenue | NOTTINGHAM | NG80 1EH (NG2 1RU for Sat Nav) T:0115 883 5751 Mailto:Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rik James Sent: 29 July 2009 21:00 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: problems when starting and restarting JAWS Re: statement when jaws starts --- I say, this has been a jolly good and interesting thread indeed. And when I have the time, I intend to try it, see if it might just put a little life into my JAWS startup. Now, I wonder if anyone can say something about this as it relates to another JAWS startup issue... When in my house we start and stop JAWS, is this a problem? My wife who is sighted will turn it off, then I turn it back on again, you see. I wondered if this creates issues for a pc. On another, older desktop pc we have, the problem is on that one, that if I ever do close JAWS, it will not restart, not without a reboot. Can you think of why this might be so? On all my systems I am up to date with using the latest JAWS version and updates. And I am using XP Pro for my OS. Thanks in advance for any info and suggestions. Richard From: Jouie Balgoa Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:31 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: statement when jaws starts Sir, I maybe missed the follow ups on this topic. Where do you put this code? In the default.jss? Jouie visit http://www.jouielovesyou.multiply.com/ to read my profile as well as my articles and other things I am interested with. :) From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:04 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: statement when jaws starts I had the same error. here is what I did to fix it. replace the first line of the script you coppied with the one below. just change the name from Rob to your name. Say ("Welcome Rob,", OT_message) it seems that a coma after the quote sign was missing. HTH Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: Re: statement when jaws starts Good evening list, I've been trying to change the message when Jaws starts but am getting the following error message. Does anyone know what I may be doing wrong? thanks in advance Tracy Compile Error Function Say requires between 2 and 3 parameters not 1 OK ----- Original Message ----- From: Shannon Hannah To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: statement when jaws starts Alice, my instructions are very much the same as what Bob posted. His were better in point form, but I have posted the instructions I use below, which I believe I got from the old jfwlite list. I added the first line as a welcome message but you certainly can omit this first line. If you do want to have a message you can put whatever you want in here. Hope this helps and if you want write me off the list at: hannah74@xxxxxxx Shannon Announce Jaws version number and Date and Time on Load If you have more than one version of Jaws on your system, sometimes it is easy to get confused what version is loaded. This script will say the number of Jaws that you are using, plus it will say the date and time when you first load jaws. Press jaws key+0 press control+shift+d to get to the default script file, Press control L for the script list and arrow down to AutoStartEvent and enter. You are now in the auto start event script arrow down to the line that says let DefaultFirstTime = 1 Go to the end of that line and enter and after that line paste in the following lines. Of course change the version number to reflect the version and build of Jaws you are making the script change for. Say ("Welcome Shannon , ") Say ("Version 10", OT_message) Say ("Loaded on", OT_Message) SayUsingVoice (VCTX_PCCursor, SysGetDate (), OT_No_Disable) Say ("at", OT_Message) SayUsingVoice (VCTX_PCCursor, SysGetTime (), OT_No_Disable) Then press control S to compile the script and alt f4 to leave the script manager. No virus found in this incoming message. 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