Re: problems when starting and restarting JAWS

  • From: "Rik James" <Ohio1803@xxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:36:44 -0600

I will try this method of using the Run command rather than a desktop shortcut 
to restart JAWS next time, and see if it makes any difference.

I do know this much. When I unload JAWS using ALT-F4 or from the File Menu and 
choosing Exit, the program is NOT still listed as running in the Task Manager.

And also, when I restart JAWS on this one machine I am mentioning, the JAWS 
program does appear in the Task Bar and you can ALT-TAB around and go through 
the options and see that speech is turned ON but no sound will it peep or 
speak.  No matter what. Not until I close all apps and reboot the system.  With 
my other pc, I can start and close JAWS.  It does sometimes load more slowly.

Both of these desktops are pretty slow and have their appetites for causing 
grief.  But the JAWS issue has been on it since maybe JAWS 7 or so and each 
subsequent upgrade the problem has persisted.  I thought it might be a Registry 
thing, and I tried feebly to fix that, but no, thus far, no luck.

Both of these machines are Pentium 2.66 GHz with 512 MB of RAM.
Yes, that used to be fast enough. 
Now they indeed be quite the slow puppies to the chowder bowl.

Thanks for any help.
Rick



From: dave-d0619 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:04 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: problems when starting and restarting JAWS


Chris:

  I am going to clarify what I wrote in my last email message for other list 
members. .

  Since JAWS Version 7, you can use the "Run" command and type "JAWS", followed 
by the version number (with no spaces or punctuation marks, such as a period 
for "dot"), of JAWS you want to run (assuming that the version of JAWS you want 
to run is installed on your computer, of course). Try one of the following 
examples:

  jaws7

  jaws71

  jaws8

  jaws9

  jaws10

  followed by pressing ENTER, to start JAWS for the first time in a Windows 
session (that is if you did not have JAWS set to start automatically, when 
Windows starts), or to restart JAWS if you had to unload JAWS for a particular 
reason.

  HTH

  Sincerely:

  Dave durber

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mullins, Chris 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 AM
  Subject: RE: problems when starting and restarting JAWS


  Thanks Dave, I wasn't aware of that.  I tried it and had to type JAWS71, so 
it looks like you need to put in the version number without any periods.    

  Cheers

  Chris Mullins

  Application Developer 

  First Data Nottingham (EH2C)
  Embankment House | Electric Avenue | NOTTINGHAM | NG80 1EH (NG2 1RU for Sat 
Nav)

  T:0115 883 5751

  Mailto:Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx






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  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
dave-d0619
  Sent: 30 July 2009 11:37
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: problems when starting and restarting JAWS


  Chris and listers:

  Since JAWS Version 7, you can use the "Run" command and type "JAWS7", 
"JAWS8", "JAWS9", "JAWS10", followed by pressing ENTER, to start JAWS for the 
first time in a Windows session (that is if you did not have JAWS set to start 
automatically, when Windows starts), or to restart JAWS if you had to unload 
JAWS for a particular reason.

  HTH

  Sincerely:

  Dave durber

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mullins, Chris 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:08 AM
    Subject: RE: problems when starting and restarting JAWS


    Rick
    Presumably you terminate Jaws using Insert f4 and attempt to restart using 
alt control j or your own substitute hotkey?  Have you checked the shortcut on 
the desktop to ensure that
    (A) Alt control j or your own substitute is correctly assigned as the 
shortcut key
    (B) The path to the required version of Jaws is correctly defined as the 
Target.      

    Cheers
    Chris Mullins

    Application Developer 

    First Data Nottingham (EH2C)
    Embankment House | Electric Avenue | NOTTINGHAM | NG80 1EH (NG2 1RU for Sat 
Nav)

    T:0115 883 5751

    Mailto:Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx






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    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Rik James
    Sent: 29 July 2009 21:00
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: problems when starting and restarting JAWS


    Re: statement when jaws starts ---

    I say, this has been a jolly good and interesting thread indeed. And when I 
have the time, I intend to try it, see if it might just put a little life into 
my JAWS startup.

    Now, I wonder if anyone can say something about this as it relates to 
another JAWS startup issue...

    When in my house we start and stop JAWS, is this a problem?
    My wife who is sighted will turn it off, then I turn it back on again, you 
see.
    I wondered if this creates issues for a pc.

    On another, older desktop pc we have, the problem is on that one, that if I 
ever do close JAWS, it will not restart, not without a reboot.
    Can you think of why this might be so? 

    On all my systems I am up to date with using the latest JAWS version and 
updates. And I am using XP Pro for my OS.

    Thanks in advance for any info and suggestions.

    Richard 





    From: Jouie Balgoa 
    Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:31 PM
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Subject: RE: statement when jaws starts


    Sir, I maybe missed the follow ups on this topic. Where do you put this 
code? In the default.jss?

    Jouie

     

     

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    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Rob
    Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:04 AM
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: statement when jaws starts

     

    I had the same error.

    here is what I did to fix it.

    replace the first line of the script you coppied with the one below.

    just change the name from Rob to your name.

    Say ("Welcome Rob,", OT_message)

     

    it seems that a coma after the quote sign was missing.

    HTH

    Rob

     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Tracy 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:57 PM

      Subject: Re: statement when jaws starts

       

      Good evening list, 

       

      I've been trying to change the message when Jaws starts but am getting 
the following error message.  Does anyone know what I may be doing wrong? 

       

      thanks in advance

       

      Tracy 

       

      Compile Error
       Function Say requires between 2 and 3 parameters not 1
      OK 

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Shannon Hannah 

        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:08 PM

        Subject: statement when jaws starts

         

        Alice, my instructions are very much the same as what Bob posted. His 
were better in point form, but I have posted the instructions I use below, 
which I believe I got from the old jfwlite list. I added the first line as a 
welcome message but you certainly can omit this first line. If you do want to 
have a message you can put whatever you want in here. Hope this helps and if 
you want write me off the list at:

        hannah74@xxxxxxx 

        Shannon 

         

        Announce Jaws version number and Date and Time on Load

        If you have more than one version of Jaws on your system, sometimes it 
is easy to get confused what version is loaded.  This script will say the 
number of Jaws that you are using, plus it will say the date and time when you 
first load jaws. 

        Press jaws key+0
        press control+shift+d to get to the default script file, 
        Press control L for the script list and arrow down to AutoStartEvent 
and enter. You are now in the auto start event script 

        arrow down to the line that says 

        let DefaultFirstTime = 1
        Go to the end of that line and enter and after that line paste in the 
following lines.  Of course change the version number to reflect the version  
and build of Jaws you are making the script change for.


        Say ("Welcome Shannon , ")
        Say ("Version 10", OT_message)
        Say ("Loaded on", OT_Message)
        SayUsingVoice (VCTX_PCCursor, SysGetDate (), OT_No_Disable)
        Say ("at", OT_Message)
        SayUsingVoice (VCTX_PCCursor, SysGetTime (), OT_No_Disable)

         

        Then press control S to compile the script and alt f4 to leave the 
script manager.

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