I was having the same problem, but I honestly use outlook more now anyway. Allison -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Miller Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:53 PM To: JFW list Subject: new jfw update and OE problem Well, the new jfw update is out, but for me, the OE problem remains, every single time I close the program, gone is jaws. Some times I can play and get it back but some times it's a very serious crash. How ever, and I'd like to see others who are having this same problem's input on this, if I'm not using eloquence, it doesn't seem to do it. It won't crash unless I open an email or a few emails, but with SAPI, I played with it for almost an hour, exiting out of it about 25 times with not a crash so I'm curious if anyone else finds the same thing. I never setup double talk software with jfw 7.1 yet but I'll work on that when I have time and might even copy the eloquence files over form an older version and see if I can fix it that way though FS is working with me on this one so I might wait on the main computer. I would like input though from anyone else who has this problem, or who uses other synths and hasn't had any problems who might be willing to switch over for a little while and try it for me. John Miller N1UMJ AIM and yahoo messenger: N1UMJ home page: http://home.comcast.net/~n1umj/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx