major problems with say all in new JAWS update
- From: "Allan" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:03:54 +0800
hi,
i'm not sure, i have my ILM installed, so my jaws not run in 40 minuts mode.
Regards,
Allan Wong
----- Original Message -----
From: "Devona Abel" <djasister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 09:45
Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
Will that work for the demo?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 6:23 PM
Subject: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
> hi yardbird,
> if you already have prier version of jaws 8.0 install on your system and
> you run the setup package, it will give you an update
> option. but if your system does not have any previous release of jaws 8.0
> installed, it will run as a full installation.
>
> hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Allan Wong
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 05:25
> Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>
>
> I just downloaded and installed the update using Allan's link, and what
> installed said it was an update, not a full program, and it doesn't seem
> to
> have wiped out my settings or anything of the sort, at least so far as I
> can
> tell. This entire thread is totally confusing to me, and I'm just glad
> Allan
> provided that direct link and that it all seemed to go without a hitch for
> me. Oh, well.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:49 PM
> Subject: RE: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>
>
> hi. Ok,Jim, what you say makes total sense. but get this. i've
> heard that Eric Damery of FS is saying to fix the problem with the is
> magic running script, what you do is to go into your user settings
> folder and delete default.jsb and default.jss and that should clear
> the problem up. What I'm wondering is, wouldn't that make JAWS
> basically unusable?
> I mean if you're deleting the default script? I only know the *very*
> basics of working with scripts, so I definitely do not want to render
> this instalation of JAWS unusable. Believe me, I've learned to be
> careful through trial and error. Mostly error and not so much trial,
> smile.
> I just wanna make absolutely, positively sure I'm understanding this
> before I continue.
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> At 02:26 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote:
>>hi chris you are making this harder then it has to be.
>>simply do this.
>>1. go to your setting folder for jaws and back it up some where.
>>to do a full uninstall.
>>3. reinstall jaws.
>>4. put your settings back.
>>problem solved.
>>should take at the most 15 menits.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>Of Chris Skarstad
>>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:55 AM
>>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>>
>>hi. well, it looks like it's gonna be an uninstall for me.
>>I ran the installer for 8.0 build 1163 just a few minutes ago and it
>>went through it's little routine, click, cclick, click.
>>Then I received a message telling me that the product was already
>>installed. to modify or remove it, go to add/remove programs in
>>control pannel. Ok so I did that. The only option I was given was
>>remove. No modify, or repair, just remove. I had the choice to just
>>remove JAWS, or remove JAWS and shared components. Through
>>experience, I learned that it is most definitely not! a good idea to
>>remove shared components, especially if you have multiple versions of
>>JAWS and other access products on your machine, which I do.
>>So to fix 8.0 and get it back to some sense of real normalcy, it
>>looks like uninstalling 8.0 is my only option. I did write fs tech
>>support in hopes they would be able to come up with some other
>>solution. I just don't wanna have to do this because it would mean a
>>whole lot of configuring for me and I've got better things to do with
>>my life then try and fix a broken screenreader that should be working
>>in the first damn place.
>>Sorry, y'all, but I just wish fs would look at all the options before
>>putting their product out. what if someone like me hadn't ran the
>>previous update? I wonder if they'd be just as screwed as me. Just
>>really frustrated now.
>>
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>>At 12:39 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >Yeah, I'd go to the download page and select the http link to the
>> >package if the ftp link's giving you fits.
>> >Tom
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:14 AM
>> >Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>> >
>> >
>> >>Ah, okay. thanks. Should I use the FTP link Allan provided, or should I
>> >>go
>> >>to the FS site/Jaws Center/Downloads?
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Lange" <trlange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:46 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Hi,
>> >>I downloaded and ran the full install for build 1163 yesterday. If
>> >>you've
>> >>already done an ILM activation for JAWS 8 on your machine, it
>> >>definitely
>> >>won't ask you to re-activate, nor will it cost you a key.
>> >>
>> >>Tom
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:32 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>P..P.S.
>> >>>
>> >>>I clicked on the FTP link but all that happened was I got a Windows
>> >>>error
>> >>>sound. Also, you call it a full installation? Well, that's just what I
>> >>>thought I found online last night, and it said it cost an ILM key. I'm
>> >>>confused.
>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:12 AM
>> >>>Subject: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>hi yardbird,
>> >>>
>> >>>to read about what's new in jaws 8, click this link:
>> >>>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80fea.asp
>> >>>
>> >>>to read about jaws 8.0.1163 under windows Vista, click this link:
>> >>>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80VistaUAC.asp
>> >>>
>> >>>to download the full installer for jaws 8.0.1163, click this link:
>> >>>ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J8.0.1163U
>>_ILM.exe
>> >>>
>> >>>Regards,
>> >>>Allan Wong
>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird"
>> >>><yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 15:41
>> >>>Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>I seem to have missed some developments since I downloaded my Jaws 8.0
>> >>>in
>> >>>January, because you guys are talking about having problems with an
>>update
>> >>>that you can't install as a partial update unless you've installed
>> >>>some
>> >>>previous one that I didn't even know had been released, or something.
>> >>>
>> >>>The version I'm running is 8.0.423. That's what I downloaded in
>> >>>January.
>> >>>
>> >>>So you're saying that I can't use the auto update feature in the Jaws
>>menu
>> >>>to update this, or else I'll start having even more problems than
>> >>>version
>> >>>8
>> >>>is already giving me?
>> >>>
>> >>>Anyway, I'd like to read an explanation about this latest version or
>> >>>update,
>> >>>and see if it's supposed to correct any of the glitches that have
>>troubled
>> >>>me to this point with version 8. But when I explore on the FS site to
>>find
>> >>>something, all I can find is a page offering the latest full version,
>> >>>numbered 8.0.1163, with the note that it's an ILM thing. Does that
>> >>>mean
>> >>>if,
>> >>>following you guys' advice, I update by downloading the entire updated
>> >>>current version, it'll require one of my keys, leaving me with one
>> >>>fewer,
>> >>>a
>> >>>possible inconveinece later? I thought updates were simply free if you
>> >>>already had a current versin installed.
>> >>>
>> >>>Maybe I'm missing a page that has only updates and some explanation
>> >>>about
>> >>>them? After reading you guys' complaints, I'd rather download from the
>> >>>FS
>> >>>site than use the auto update feature, but where do I go to find this
>> >>>update
>> >>>and read about it, too?
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks.
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