Re: jfw for the blind or visually impaired

  • From: "Brandon Keith \(Biggs\)" <brandonboy13@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:39:33 -0700

Yes, I think everyone should learn the basic windows commands that don't need 
Jaws so they don't need to keep on using the mouse.
Hitting alt-tab is much faster and safer than moving the pointer up to the top 
right and trying to click the little box to switch windows.
They should also learn how to type without looking.
I have found that knowing how to type correctly has helped me beyond any other 
skill in my life and the school didn't teach me, it was my father who spent the 
hours of time forcing me to type faster using the right fingers... 
So I say that yes Jaws should be used by everyone, but that is after they have 
mastered all the basic skills first.

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From: kimsan 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:21 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: RE: jfw for the blind or visually impaired

I agree that with a partially sighted student, it wouldn't hurt to introduce 
him or her to jaws an/or other blindness skills.

I hope I did not come across as if I am against teaching my partially sighted 
students jaws?

One of my original inquories was the experience of using jaws from a partially 
sighted vantage point compared to being blind. Of course, with me being blind, 
I already experience this but I wonder how the experience would be if you are 
visually impaired.

Good day.


From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:25 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jfw for the blind or visually impaired


It doesn't hurt the student to learn to use Jaws, or to learn to do anything 
using blindness skills, in my opinion, regardless his visual acuity.  I have 
been blind for 60 years; and those with whom I went to school who had partial 
sight while in school are totally blind now, or as nearly as makes no 
difference.  It must be remembered we are educating the whole person, and 
preparing him to live a successful life regardless his age.  I believe he 
should be able to successfully transition and to adjust as his vision 
deteriorates.  Should this not be the case would possessing these skills harm 
the student?  I say no.  Because he will learn keyboarding skills which surpass 
mouse computer navigation.  Not to mention causing him to be able to use the 
computer better generally.  He will also learn the life lesson that things 
others feel to be an essential such as a computers monitor can be done without 
quite successfully.  It will also provide him with the confidence that he will 
be capable should his vision further deteriorate.  So, based on what I just 
maintained it wouldn't hurt sighted students to use screen readers as well 
regardless their visual ability.  My dear mother use to take children off our 
neighborhood street and attempt to teach them to touch type using an old typing 
book for similar reasons.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Kimsan Song 

  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

  Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:36 PM

  Subject: RE: jfw for the blind or visually impaired



  That was my Original thought.

  I kind of figured that there were no criteria, which brought me to presenting 
this discussion or lack of...

  Where I work, I am part of a multidisciplinary team supporting blind and 
visually impaired school students and I have observed the teachers for the 
blind assess these students and reccomend jaws training.

  My confusion was why when these students are able to read 20 plus pt font 
just fine, why introduce them to jaws? and when they use computers else where 
its the same exact set up font wise etc. Meaning, the only time they use jaws 
is when they are in class with me...

  Anyways, thanks for your response.

  Take care. 


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