RE: jaws crashing
- From: "Brian Hansen" <BC.Hansen23@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:56:10 -0600
At least on my system, there is a setting in the Bios that allows me to
define how the power key is going to behave. I've got it set for a complete
power-down, because my good recording sound card's driver doesn't like to go
into standby, and I don't like the newer driver.
Blessings,
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:41 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jaws crashing
The on-case power button on many modern computers is a dual state input when
the computer is running. Pressing and releasing it will put the computer
into sleep or hibernation mode (the two are different). A reasonable
explanation is at:
http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/computers-sleep.html ).
Pressing and holding the power button will cause a full power off after
several seconds. I've seen this require holding the power button for up to
ten seconds.
So if you press the power button then press it again and the computer
returns to wherever it was before you hit the power button the first time
you were almost certainly only putting it into sleep mode. Sleep won't help
your computer recover from anything and in fact can make things worse in
some instances. The keyboard power button is almost exclusively a "sleep"
button rather than a duplicate of the on-case button.
On 1/16/10, Brian Hansen <BC.Hansen23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm talking about the power button on the tower itself. I've got it
> configured to completely shut everything down when the power button is
> pressed. It's just like going through the option under Windows to
> turn off your computer.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Brian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Daniel McGee
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:20 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: jaws crashing
>
> Hi Brian when you say hit your power button do you mean the one on
> your keyboard or the one on your actural computer? if its the one on
> your keyboard I warn you and this applys to all! I really don't know
> why but a few months ago i've had problems with my computer alot of
> the time it just kept not responding well i'm asuming that anyway and
> so the only way I could turn my computer off was hitting the power
> button on my keyboard. And surprise surprise eventualy the hole damn
> thing crashed! I had to get an tech guy to lituraly reinstall
> everything from scrach! And he said don't hit the power button on your
> keyboard because I don't know why but he basicly said to shut down the
> normal way. But the thing is us blind people can't do anything when a
> system stops for any reason all we can do is hope for the best that it
> pulls it self together and comes back with speach. Michael what
> version of windows do you have? I am curious does it happen on windows
> 7 at all and if you have got that OS what version of it do you have? I
> myself have a vista home premium that is one of the main reason I
> wanted to upgrade to windows 7 with my computer because its ment to be
better performence is this true?
> Many Thanks
> Daniel
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Brian Hansen" <BC.Hansen23@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:49 PM
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: jaws crashing
>
>> I've had the same problem on my machine as well. It seems to be
>> happening when I'm moving quickly with the JAWS cursor. JFW just
>> completely stops, along with any sounds going through that particular
>> sound card. The only way to get JAWS back is to hit my power button
>> which powers down the system, and then try restarting the computer.
>> I can't even get Narrator to start speaking. I had someone look at
>> things on the screen, and it's as if JFW is in the system tray, but
>> not resident in memory.
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of michael
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:35 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: jaws crashing
>>
>> well i don't have any sighted help ti tell me what's on the screen
>> but all speech stops and i have to either restart jaws or the system
>>
>> On 1/14/2010 3:09 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
>>> Please define crash. Blue Screen? Speech stops, but programs continue?
>>> What exactly happens, in specific cases? If you want help, we need
>>> useful
>> data.
>>>
>>> My JAWS will also occasionally stop speaking and I need to kill and
>> restart.
>>> Sometimes my JAWS will stop reading the items on a list and again I
>>> need to kill and restart. Sometimes my JAWS will only read the first
>>> line of a message and refuse to move down through the message body.
>>> I need to restart both Outlook and JAWS to fix that.
>>>
>>> JAWS 11 - what can I say?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "michael"<mkizer02@xxxxxxxxxxx> To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:51
>>> Subject: Re: jaws crashing
>>>
>>>
>>> well it has happened in many different cases anything from checking
>>> e-mail to using windows live or facebook
>>>
>>> On 1/14/2010 2:13 PM, mostafa almahdy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello:
>>>> may you clarify this point please?
>>>> Could you describe precisely the crashing circumstances?
>>>>
>>>> On 1/14/10, michael<mkizer02@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> has anyone found a solution to jfw 11 crashing sometimes it's just
>>>>> sluggish sometimes i can unload and restart jfw and sometimes i
>>>>> have to restart my hole computer any help is much appeciated
>>>>> --
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