Why are you giving him long and harder steps to do this. Why not tell him to go to basics, choose braille, and disable the 8 dot there instead of making him go through the config manager when he doesn't have to. Btw what made you switch to jaws when you kept bragging how superior windows eyes is over Jaws? ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroline Congdon To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: Re: jaws and the braille display Hi, Armando. I wonder if maybe you have 8 dot braille enabled. Go into the configuration manager with Insert-6 on the number row. Press Control-Shift-D to get to the default settings. Press Alt-S for Settings, and then B for Braille. Now press Alt-8. This will automatically toggle the check box for 8-dot braille. Tab to Okay and press Enter. Now press alt-F4. When asked if you want to save settings, say yes. The lines should be easier to follow now because the bottom line of cells should be gone. Hope this helps. Caroline Caroline Congdon; Milwaukee, Wisconsin Check out my blog at http://carolinecongdon.blogspot.com mailto:carolinecongdon@xxxxxxxxx