sorry, on your second question, I'd get the extra cooling fan for the athlon because insurance never hurts. Some of this stuff is so new it's hard to know the answers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tusing" <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: Re: jaws and processor speed: HI, I ask 2 questions as the Athlon chips are close together in price and the 2.5 mhz Athlon is $90 with the Intel 2.8 at around $230--not mucch compared with what we paid 2 years Would the performance of the 3 chip bethat much superior to that of the 2.5 chip if one uses Access 32 or Eloquence, streaming radio and Office with X P? And could some ofthose heat issues be "less" now that the chips are .13 micron instead of .18 micron supposedly making them "cooler"? In all these questions, I have in mind the use of JAWS and applications that seem to require more ram and more power over the years. thanks to every one. ago! ----- Original Message ----- From: "trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:46 AM Subject: Re: jaws and processor speed: > For this answer I would say anything around 3 and below your good to go for > prices. When you go past 3 you get into a architecture that xp can do, but > not many other apps. Besides another few months and there price will be right. > > At 10:23 AM 1/16/04 -0500, you wrote: > >ah, so if I run as much as I can out board, how low can the speed get and > >still be reasonable or as I am really trying to get it, how fast is too > >fast? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:49 AM > >Subject: Re: jaws and processor speed: > > > > > >Well I run a athilon 1.47, 512 ram abit k7 board with a gforce 64 mb > >onboard video, and don't have much of a slow down except in the op. Because > >of a lot of my test work I do I still run 98 and that makes me run a memory > >manager, but I still got speed the manager just keeps me from rebooting all > >the time witch 98 is prone to. I have had xp on the box and still no slow > >down. > >With a nice chip and 512 ddr you shouldn't see any lack of speed on xp, but > >if your going to use a lot of the on board stuff then like I said 2 gig > >chips are pricing nice now. > > > >At 08:22 AM 1/16/04 -0500, you wrote: > > >but what about the processor speed, which is what I am after. I ask again > > >because jaws is the bottle neck here and I have seen fast systems with > > >eloquence slow to a crawl even with an audio adaptor that is not built in. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:08 AM > > >Subject: Re: jaws and processor speed: > > > > > > > > >I would say anything around 512 ddr should work good, and with the prices > > >of chips you may want to think of 2 gig or higher depending on board. > > > > > >At 07:39 AM 1/16/04 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I'm looking for benchmarks for a specification I'm working up to build a > > >pc. > > > >I want to know the most benifitial ram speed with jaws as the main > > > >consideration and of course, I will want to watch and maybe burn dvds, > >burn > > > >cds, run broad band and do streaming and such as well as word processing > > >but > > > >not a lot of high end stuff and not open too much at once. I will be > >using > > > >an external synthesizer but want a good audio card. I will be getting a > > > >32-bit card with a gig of ram on it if I can just to take the video off > >the > > > >processor as much as possible. I don't need a 128 bit card because I am > > >not > > > >doing cad/cam or high end gaming or modeling super sonic air craft or > > > >sending a space ship to the moon at least not yet. > > > > > > > >So, I might actually be quite comfortable with a 1.6 gb processor for > > > >instance unless all that high powered stuff I want including my 80 gb > >fast > > > >hd and my 40x optical drives just won't be supported by it. I don't want > > > >the pc to crawl, I don't want jaws to pull the system down too much > >either. > > > > > > > >I'm asking this because I have seen a lot of systems that run super fast > > > >without jaws but quite slowly with jaws and some that run super fast > > >without > > > >jaws and even though slower with jaws, still pretty fast so It got me to > > > >thinking that some bench marking might be in order becuase I don't want > >to > > > >spend a lot of money for nothing, on he other hand, if a 3.3 ghz > >processor > > > >will enhance the performance of jaws, well... > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > >Tim > > >trouble > > > > > > > > >-- > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > >-- > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > >Tim > >trouble > > > > > >-- > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > >-- > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > Tim > trouble > > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.