to ftp in windows, go to the run box and type ftp followed by a space and then the address to which you wish to go. once there, you can type help to get the list of commands. It is a bit clunky to use, but works like a charm. It's only drawback is that it is not easy to get a bunch of files at random. If you need help using ftp, write me privately and I'll be happy to work with you. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.