Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"

  • From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:53:40 -0700

Hi Rick,

Who is Tom?  I've never been able to get in touch with a real person over 
there.  I've tried several times over the past year or so to establish 
contact, but all my goodfaith efforts have been totally ignored. 
Irrespective of when or how often the CAPTCHA appears, it really ought to be 
made accessible.  Doing anything less really is another case of that dreaded 
"no blind people allowed" sign that works to lock us out of full 
participation.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"


Hi,

Just did so again today to test whether not the captia would come up or not
and it didn't and I had no problems adding to my profile.  I was told the
captia will only come up if you make a ton of changes to your myspace
profile in a very short period of time.  have you contacted Tom at myspace
about accessibility?  I plan to do so today or tomorrow to see what response
I get.

Rick


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"


> Yes, I did so last night and do everyday since i've been on the last week
> or so.
>
> Rick
>
>
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>
> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Slade Sellers" <sladesell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:04 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"
>
>
>> have you tried changing text in your profile lately?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"
>>
>>
>>> No unfortunately.  I had a sighted friend sign me up.  Once you get past
>>> that it's fairly accessible for the most part.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:27 AM
>>> Subject: RE: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is there a way to sign up for MySpace without sighted help? I got the
>>>> image verification thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/3736
>>>> email and MSN:  tlsyslo@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> skype: tlsyslo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
>>>> Behalf Of Rick Harmon
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:41 PM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's not entirely true.  I make changes to my myspace page everyday
>>>> and
>>>> don't encounter the captia.  I was told by another my space user that
>>>> the
>>>> captia will come up if you make a bunch of changes in a very short
>>>> amount of
>>>> time.  So while it may come up, it certainly doesn't come up with every
>>>> change of a page.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Slade,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.  I have also tried contacting the MySpace folks regarding
>>>>> accessible
>>>>> CAPTCHAs, and they have also chosen to ignore me.  Maybe it is time
>>>>> for a
>>>>> blog post on the journal about it.  Grrr!
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Slade Sellers" <sladesell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I was using Myspace fairly easy then folks started complaining
>>>>> of
>>>>> spam
>>>>> so now every time you make changes the CAPTCHA appears.  I've tried
>>>>> contacting them but nothing.
>>>>> Slade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis" <bhawkeslewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: jaws and "enter the text as shown in the box"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The term is "image-recognition CAPTCHA".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha for an overview.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See http://www.captcha.net/ for research into CAPTCHAs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The whole purpose of a CAPTCHA is to create a problem that only
>>>>>> humans
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> solve in order to defeat automated spamming attacks. If a screen
>>>>>> reader
>>>>>> could read a CAPTCHA, then so could a hostile program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many sites provide alternatives to image-recognition CAPTCHAs.
>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>> you might be asked to listen to an audio CAPTCHA or solve a written
>>>>>> problem (e.g. enter the answer to 2 + 2). These aren't a complete
>>>>>> solution, since audio CAPTCHAs can be hard to hear and those with
>>>>>> learning
>>>>>> disabilities or language barriers could struggle with
>>>>>> problem-solving.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many more sites offer a contact form, email address, or telephone
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> to use in order to contact an administrator who can give you access.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> there isn't one specified as an alternative to the CAPTCHA, look for
>>>>>> webmaster contact details or general contact details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can't find details and it's an important site, no harm in
>>>>>> letting
>>>>>> us know what that site is so we can have a look too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Benjamin Hawes-Lewis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Slade Sellers wrote:
>>>>>>> hey all,
>>>>>>> sorry I don't know the term to describe these spam filters, although
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> guess I understand as to why some sites have these boxes.  Anyway,
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> there a jaws command or trick to getting the text read?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've tried jaws cursor and even attempted the websites page
>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>> yet nothing works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And many of these websites don't  have the audio option in case
>>>>>>> visually
>>>>>>> impaired folks can't see the text.  Basically, is there a way around
>>>>>>> these boxes?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Slade
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