hmmm thing this is wrong. for the most part the ripping of a music cd used to introduce errors to the wav being produced. but thought exact audio copy solved that issue and a friend told me nero 6.6 has a similar feature to inssure a perfect copy. new to 6.6. granted its really a mute point, most errors with any wav copy are in audible. that is why a m p 3 sounds so good after getting rid of 90 percent of the info. if a mp3 is missing 90 percent errors less than one percent are totally in audible. realize copy protection can introduce noise but thats a whole other issue. also realize copy protection can prevent any copy. depending on the copy protection scheme. bill -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx