Hi, Judith. I forgot to mention to you that you have to check the box that
says "run Jaws in system tray".
Rosemarie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: jaws 7
Hi, Judith. You have to hit the alt key to bring up the menus. The first thing you'll hear is options. Hit your down arrow once and you'll hear Basics... Hit enter on it and tab to the box that says "run Jaws from system tray". Then tab to the ok button and hit either enter or the space bar. That's the way I was taught todo it.
Rosemarie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 7
The jaws window comes up and I have no mobility within the box. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: Re: jaws 7
toWhat happens when you just hit enter after hitting insert+ju?
Bruce
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
> Daniel, I can't get to basics, that's the problem. When I have th > jaws
> window open on the desktop I can't tab or arrow around to find > anything.
> That's the problem. Judith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>
>
>> Judith,
>>
>> You hear the three dots after the word Basics? That means there's a
> submenu
>> to open. Hit Enter. Then use your up and down arrow keys. Please >> try
>> this.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>
>>
>> Yardbird, I understand about the retina, that's where my visual >> problem
>> stems from. Can you tell me how to get to basics? I brought the >> jaws
>> window up with jaws key j and then tried accessing it through the >> desk
> top.
>> Both times I got the window but couldn't arrow around in the box to >> getis>> basics. Judith >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:54 AM >> Subject: Re: jaws 7 >> >> >>> Well, thanks. I can see in my blurry way that the program interface> onwindow
>>> the screen, but I can't see clearly enough with my central vision >>> (the
>> part
>>> of the retina we use for reading, seeing faces, etc., none of which >>> I
> can
>>> do) to see that the shark logo is decorating it. So when Judith
> referred
>>> only to the logo, and didn't just say that the Main Jaws interface
> window
>>> was what she meant, I didn't know what to think.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>>
>>>
>>> the JAWS logo is a shark. it appears in the main window when theI> is >>> actually on the screen, instead of the system tray. >>> >>> >>> >>> At 12:34 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote: >>>> I'm confused. Judith referred to seeing a jaws logo on the screen.>>>> imagined that to be some sort of company design. Are you saying >>>> thatto
>> what
>>>> she's seeing is the Jaws main interface and its menus? it just >>>> seems
>> fair
>>>> to explain that this isn't decorative, but the basic interface of >>>> the
>>>> program, and *then* to explain that the program can be run like her
> other
>>>> applications, so that it's always available the way Word is, or >>>> made>> rundifferent
>>>> in the system tray, where it won't be seen unless called up from >>>> the
>> system
>>>> tray or by pressing Insert J.
>>>>
>>>> Now, if a logo like a shark is what's on the screen, that's a>>>> matter, of course...you're
>>>> loo or that was
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Judith
>>>>
>>>> Ok, do the following to get rid of the JAWS window on the screen, >>>> if
> you
>>>> haven't figured this out already on your own doing some searching.
>>>> go to your JAWS window and go to options, and then basics...
>>>> when you press enter here, you'll get a dialogue box with a few
>> checkboxes.
>>>> the one you want to check is, run JAWS from system tray. Check >>>> this
> box.
>>>> then go through the options and set things how you want them. If>>>> unsure of what an item in the list is, press insert plus f1 andyou'll>> hearclose
>>>> a description of the current item and what it does. then press ok.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, now you should be bak at your regular JAWS window again. To >>>> get
> JAWS
>>>> to run in your system tray which will keep the JAWS window off the
> screen
>>>> but still running, you'll need to unload JAWS with insert plus f4 >>>> and
>> then
>>>> restart JAWS. By default, JAWS puts a desktop icon for itselfon >>>> your
>>>> desktop, so before you hit alt plus f4 to restart, press windows >>>> key
> plus
>> m
>>>> and then press j until you hear JAWS 7.0
>>>> Ok, now do your insert plus f4 to lose JAWS and then press ok to>>>> it. Now if you're focused on the desktop icon for JAWS 7, which >>>> youeverything
>> should
>>>> be, just wait a few seconds, and then press enter. In a few >>>> seconds,
> JAWS
>>>> should load up again, and then you should be able to access> inlist,
>>>> your JAWS menu a little easier with insert j. it'll pop up your
> different
>>>> JAWS menu items in a context menu.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 11:12 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
>>>>> Well, For the most part it is working. However, I keep getting >>>>> the
>> jaws
>>>>> logo up on the screen. Is there a way to avoid this?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I had read--there is a separate version for Windows
> 98.
>> As
>>>>>> I
>>>>> have said, I should have gone to the web site to verify this >>>>> first.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> for that, Chris.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi
>>>>>> There is *most definitely* a version of JAWS 7 for windows 98. >>>>>> In
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>> with the CD Judith has, the proper version is installed based on
> the
>>>>>> operating system being used.
>>>>>> So she wouldn't need to ditch the cd and re-download it at all,
> the
>> cd
>>>>> just
>>>>>> installs the proper version. nice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 10:31 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Judith, I believe I read in the Jaws 7 release notes that >>>>>>> version
> 7
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> NOT meant for Windows 98.
>>>>>>> You can certainly have more than one version of Jaws on your
> system
>>>>>>> though--although I guess your ram capacity would bear on that.
>> Also,
>>>>>>> Version 7 is, I believe about 7 megs in size so we should really
>> know
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> little more about your system before giving a definitive answer.
>>>>>>> I use the hot key combo control alt 5, control alt 6 and control
>> alt
>>>>>>> j
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> versions 5, 6 and 7 respectively.
>>>>>>> I like version 7 best of all but so far I have not experienced
> many
>>>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> problems others have spoken of.
>>>>>>> I am quite certain though that version 7 is specifically not
>>>>>>> recommended
>>>>>>> for Windows 98.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:12 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just went to the FS website and read of the new features.
> Quite
>>>>> honestly,
>>>>>>> the spike feature discussed earlier this week would allow me to
>>>>>>> collect
>>>>>>> material on the clipboard and paste it all when I was ready. >>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> other
>>>>> new
>>>>>>> feature that allows for easier menu reading has never been a
>> problem
>>>>>>> for
>>>>> me.
>>>>>>> One thing that I forgot to point out is that I'm working on
> windows
>>>>>>> 98.
>>>>>>> Would this pose a problem if I decided to install the program?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Judith
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:08 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's one on the FS Website. It will be better at listing
> the
>>>>>>>> improvements than any of us could be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a list of improvements in jaws 7? So far
> its
>> 2
>>>>> against
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> 1 for. Still thinking on it. Judith
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really, now. One doesn't have to mutually exclude the
> other?
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> been noted countless times, you can upgrade but if there
> are
>>>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>> things may not work right, it isn't a criminal offense to
>> keep
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>> version there as a fall-back.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Frankly, there's a lot that JFW 7 has to offer, and I've
> not
>>>>>>> encountered
>>>>>>>>>> many of the problems that others have. Obviously, there
> are
>>>>>>> differences
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> system performance due to different display adapters,
>> installed
>>>>>>> drivers,
>>>>>>>>>> installed software and so forth. But, I find that JFW 7
>>>>>>>>>> performs
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> certain web pages and with certain forms; and other
> additions
>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> improved table formatting, MSN 7 support, the virtual
>> clipboard
>>>>>>> feature,
>>>>>>>>>> firefox etc. are strong arguments to use 7 but have the
>>>>>>>>>> fallback
>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> your version of choice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:45 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heya Judith,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stick with 5.1 as Ive decided to go back to it after many
>>>>> frustrations
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> 7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jim from Oz
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Judith Bron
>>>>>>>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:20 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: jaws 7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quite to my surprise I just got a CD of Jaws 7 in the
> mail.
>>>>>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> alluded
>>>>>>>>>> to earlier I haven't been following all the complaints
> about
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> newest
>>>>>>>>>> version because I didn't have it and was content with my
> jaws
>>>>>>>>>> 5.1.
>>>>>>> Should
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> install the new jaws or stick with my jaws 5.1? Is it as
>> easy
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> use
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> 5.1? Thanks, Judith
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
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