RE: jaws 7
- From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:42:14 -0800
Judith. Inser J. Now you hear Options. That is the first thing you
hear.
No it is not not if you are not running it from the system tray. The
first thing you here is jaws.
This means the jaws control pannel is on screen. To access option you
can press alt and then arrow down or press alt o.
Enter or right arrow to bring that up. Now Arrow up and
It has a submenu.
Here again if you are in the interface hitting right arrow will take you
to the utilities menu. Remember she is in the jaws control panel window
not the system tray context menu. So enter or down arrow will bring it
up.
down to see what's there, and press Enter on Basics.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 7
Daniel, I can't get to basics, that's the problem. When I have th jaws
window open on the desktop I can't tab or arrow around to find anything.
That's the problem. Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: jaws 7
> Judith,
>
> You hear the three dots after the word Basics? That means there's a
submenu
> to open. Hit Enter. Then use your up and down arrow keys. Please
> try this.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>
>
> Yardbird, I understand about the retina, that's where my visual
> problem stems from. Can you tell me how to get to basics? I brought
> the jaws window up with jaws key j and then tried accessing it through
> the desk
top.
> Both times I got the window but couldn't arrow around in the box to
> get to basics. Judith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>
>
> > Well, thanks. I can see in my blurry way that the program interface
> > is
on
> > the screen, but I can't see clearly enough with my central vision
> > (the
> part
> > of the retina we use for reading, seeing faces, etc., none of which
> > I
can
> > do) to see that the shark logo is decorating it. So when Judith
referred
> > only to the logo, and didn't just say that the Main Jaws interface
window
> > was what she meant, I didn't know what to think.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> >
> >
> > the JAWS logo is a shark. it appears in the main window when the
> > window
is
> > actually on the screen, instead of the system tray.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 12:34 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
> > >I'm confused. Judith referred to seeing a jaws logo on the screen.
> > >I imagined that to be some sort of company design. Are you saying
> > >that
> what
> > >she's seeing is the Jaws main interface and its menus? it just
> > >seems
> fair
> > >to explain that this isn't decorative, but the basic interface of
> > >the program, and *then* to explain that the program can be run like
> > >her
other
> > >applications, so that it's always available the way Word is, or
> > >made to
> run
> > >in the system tray, where it won't be seen unless called up from
> > >the
> system
> > >tray or by pressing Insert J.
> > >
> > >Now, if a logo like a shark is what's on the screen, that's a
> > >different matter, of course... loo or that was
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:14 PM
> > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Judith
> > >
> > >Ok, do the following to get rid of the JAWS window on the screen,
> > >if
you
> > >haven't figured this out already on your own doing some searching.
> > >go to your JAWS window and go to options, and then basics... when
> > >you press enter here, you'll get a dialogue box with a few
> checkboxes.
> > >the one you want to check is, run JAWS from system tray. Check
> > >this
box.
> > >then go through the options and set things how you want them. If
> > >you're unsure of what an item in the list is, press insert plus f1
> > >and you'll
> hear
> > >a description of the current item and what it does. then press ok.
> > >
> > >Ok, now you should be bak at your regular JAWS window again. To
> > >get
JAWS
> > >to run in your system tray which will keep the JAWS window off the
screen
> > >but still running, you'll need to unload JAWS with insert plus f4
> > >and
> then
> > >restart JAWS. By default, JAWS puts a desktop icon for itselfon
> > >your desktop, so before you hit alt plus f4 to restart, press
> > >windows key
plus
> m
> > >and then press j until you hear JAWS 7.0
> > >Ok, now do your insert plus f4 to lose JAWS and then press ok to
> > >close it. Now if you're focused on the desktop icon for JAWS 7,
> > >which you
> should
> > >be, just wait a few seconds, and then press enter. In a few
> > >seconds,
JAWS
> > >should load up again, and then you should be able to access
> > >everything
in
> > >your JAWS menu a little easier with insert j. it'll pop up your
different
> > >JAWS menu items in a context menu.
> > >
> > >Hope this helps.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 11:12 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > > >Well, For the most part it is working. However, I keep getting
> > > >the
> jaws
> > > >logo up on the screen. Is there a way to avoid this?
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:16 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That's what I had read--there is a separate version for
> > > > > Windows
98.
> As
> > > > > I
> > > >have said, I should have gone to the web site to verify this
> > > >first. Thanks for that, Chris.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi
> > > > > There is *most definitely* a version of JAWS 7 for windows
> > > > > 98. In fact with the CD Judith has, the proper version is
> > > > > installed based on
the
> > > > > operating system being used.
> > > > > So she wouldn't need to ditch the cd and re-download it at
> > > > > all,
the
> cd
> > > >just
> > > > > installs the proper version. nice!
> > > > >
> > > > > At 10:31 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > > > > >Judith, I believe I read in the Jaws 7 release notes that
> > > > > >version
7
> > > > > >was
> > > > > >NOT meant for Windows 98.
> > > > > >You can certainly have more than one version of Jaws on your
system
> > > > > >though--although I guess your ram capacity would bear on
> > > > > >that.
> Also,
> > > > > >Version 7 is, I believe about 7 megs in size so we should
> > > > > >really
> know
> > > > > >a
> > > > > >little more about your system before giving a definitive
> > > > > >answer. I use the hot key combo control alt 5, control alt 6
> > > > > >and control
> alt
> > > > > >j
> > > >for
> > > > > >versions 5, 6 and 7 respectively.
> > > > > >I like version 7 best of all but so far I have not
> > > > > >experienced
many
> > > > > >of
> > > >the
> > > > > >problems others have spoken of.
> > > > > >I am quite certain though that version 7 is specifically not
> > > > > >recommended for Windows 98.
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:12 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I just went to the FS website and read of the new features.
Quite
> > > >honestly,
> > > > > >the spike feature discussed earlier this week would allow me
> > > > > >to collect material on the clipboard and paste it all when I
> > > > > >was ready. The other
> > > >new
> > > > > >feature that allows for easier menu reading has never been a
> problem
> > > > > >for
> > > >me.
> > > > > >One thing that I forgot to point out is that I'm working on
windows
> > > > > >98.
> > > > > >Would this pose a problem if I decided to install the
> > > > > >program? Thanks, Judith
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:08 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > There's one on the FS Website. It will be better at
> > > > > > > listing
the
> > > > > > > improvements than any of us could be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Bruce Toews
> > > > > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx Web
> > > > > > > Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > > >http://www.ogts.net
> > > > > > > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
> > > > > > > http://www.cornergas.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have a list of improvements in jaws 7? So
> > > > > > > > far
its
> 2
> > > >against
> > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > 1 for. Still thinking on it. Judith
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Guys,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Really, now. One doesn't have to mutually exclude the
other?
> > > > > > > >> I
> > > >think
> > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > >> been noted countless times, you can upgrade but if
> > > > > > > >> there
are
> > > > > > > >> areas
> > > > > >where
> > > > > > > >> things may not work right, it isn't a criminal offense
> > > > > > > >> to
> keep
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > >older
> > > > > > > >> version there as a fall-back.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Frankly, there's a lot that JFW 7 has to offer, and
> > > > > > > >> I've
not
> > > > > >encountered
> > > > > > > >> many of the problems that others have. Obviously,
> > > > > > > >> there
are
> > > > > >differences
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >> system performance due to different display adapters,
> installed
> > > > > >drivers,
> > > > > > > >> installed software and so forth. But, I find that JFW
> > > > > > > >> 7 performs
> > > > > >better
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> certain web pages and with certain forms; and other
additions
> > > > > > > >> such
> > > >as
> > > > > > > >> improved table formatting, MSN 7 support, the virtual
> clipboard
> > > > > >feature,
> > > > > > > >> firefox etc. are strong arguments to use 7 but have the
> > > > > > > >> fallback
> > > > > >ability
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> your version of choice.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Steve
> > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >> From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:45 PM
> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Heya Judith,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> stick with 5.1 as Ive decided to go back to it after
> > > > > > > >> many
> > > >frustrations
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >> 7
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> cheers,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Jim from Oz
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >> From: Judith Bron
> > > > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:20 AM
> > > > > > > >> Subject: jaws 7
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Quite to my surprise I just got a CD of Jaws 7 in the
mail.
> > > > > > > >> As
> > > > > > > >> I
> > > > > > > > alluded
> > > > > > > >> to earlier I haven't been following all the complaints
about
> > > > > > > >> this
> > > > > >newest
> > > > > > > >> version because I didn't have it and was content with
> > > > > > > >> my
jaws
> > > > > > > >> 5.1.
> > > > > >Should
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >> install the new jaws or stick with my jaws 5.1? Is it
> > > > > > > >> as
> easy
> > > > > > > >> to
> > > >use
> > > > > >as
> > > > > > > >> 5.1? Thanks, Judith
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >>
> >
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