What happens when you just hit enter after hitting insert+ju?
Bruce
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
Daniel, I can't get to basics, that's the problem. When I have th jaws window open on the desktop I can't tab or arrow around to find anything. That's the problem. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: Re: jaws 7
submenuJudith,
You hear the three dots after the word Basics? That means there's atop.to open. Hit Enter. Then use your up and down arrow keys. Please try this.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: Re: jaws 7
Yardbird, I understand about the retina, that's where my visual problem stems from. Can you tell me how to get to basics? I brought the jaws window up with jaws key j and then tried accessing it through the deskonBoth times I got the window but couldn't arrow around in the box to get to basics. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: Re: jaws 7
Well, thanks. I can see in my blurry way that the program interface iscanthe screen, but I can't see clearly enough with my central vision (thepartof the retina we use for reading, seeing faces, etc., none of which Ireferreddo) to see that the shark logo is decorating it. So when Judithwindowonly to the logo, and didn't just say that the Main Jaws interfaceiswas what she meant, I didn't know what to think. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:09 AM Subject: Re: jaws 7
the JAWS logo is a shark. it appears in the main window when the windowotherwhatactually on the screen, instead of the system tray.
At 12:34 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:I'm confused. Judith referred to seeing a jaws logo on the screen. I imagined that to be some sort of company design. Are you saying thatfairshe's seeing is the Jaws main interface and its menus? it just seemsto explain that this isn't decorative, but the basic interface of the program, and *then* to explain that the program can be run like heryourunapplications, so that it's always available the way Word is, or made tosystemin the system tray, where it won't be seen unless called up from thetray or by pressing Insert J.
Now, if a logo like a shark is what's on the screen, that's a different matter, of course... loo or that was ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: jaws 7
Hi Judith
Ok, do the following to get rid of the JAWS window on the screen, ifbox.checkboxes.haven't figured this out already on your own doing some searching. go to your JAWS window and go to options, and then basics... when you press enter here, you'll get a dialogue box with a fewthe one you want to check is, run JAWS from system tray. Check thisJAWShearthen go through the options and set things how you want them. If you're unsure of what an item in the list is, press insert plus f1 and you'lla description of the current item and what it does. then press ok.
Ok, now you should be bak at your regular JAWS window again. To getscreento run in your system tray which will keep the JAWS window off theplusthenbut still running, you'll need to unload JAWS with insert plus f4 andrestart JAWS. By default, JAWS puts a desktop icon for itselfon your desktop, so before you hit alt plus f4 to restart, press windows keymJAWSshouldand then press j until you hear JAWS 7.0 Ok, now do your insert plus f4 to lose JAWS and then press ok to close it. Now if you're focused on the desktop icon for JAWS 7, which yoube, just wait a few seconds, and then press enter. In a few seconds,inshould load up again, and then you should be able to access everythingdifferentyour JAWS menu a little easier with insert j. it'll pop up your98.jawsJAWS menu items in a context menu.
Hope this helps.
At 11:12 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:Well, For the most part it is working. However, I keep getting thelogo up on the screen. Is there a way to avoid this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:16 AM Subject: Re: jaws 7
That's what I had read--there is a separate version for WindowsAstheIhave said, I should have gone to the web site to verify this first. Thanks for that, Chris.----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: Re: jaws 7
hi There is *most definitely* a version of JAWS 7 for windows 98. In fact with the CD Judith has, the proper version is installed based ontheoperating system being used. So she wouldn't need to ditch the cd and re-download it at all,cd7justinstalls the proper version. nice!
At 10:31 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:Judith, I believe I read in the Jaws 7 release notes that versionsystemwas NOT meant for Windows 98. You can certainly have more than one version of Jaws on yourmanyAlso,though--although I guess your ram capacity would bear on that.knowVersion 7 is, I believe about 7 megs in size so we should reallyalta little more about your system before giving a definitive answer. I use the hot key combo control alt 5, control alt 6 and controlforjversions 5, 6 and 7 respectively. I like version 7 best of all but so far I have not experiencedQuitetheofproblems others have spoken of. I am quite certain though that version 7 is specifically not recommended for Windows 98. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: Re: jaws 7
I just went to the FS website and read of the new features.windowsproblemhonestly,newthe spike feature discussed earlier this week would allow me to collect material on the clipboard and paste it all when I was ready. The otherfeature that allows for easier menu reading has never been ame.forOne thing that I forgot to point out is that I'm working onthe98. Would this pose a problem if I decided to install the program? Thanks, Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: Re: jaws 7
There's one on the FS Website. It will be better at listingitshttp://www.ogts.netimprovements than any of us could be.
Bruce
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
Does anyone have a list of improvements in jaws 7? So far2other?againstand1 for. Still thinking on it. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: jaws 7
Guys,
Really, now. One doesn't have to mutually exclude thearethinkIit'sbeen noted countless times, you can upgrade but if therenotkeepwhereareasthings may not work right, it isn't a criminal offense tooldertheversion there as a fall-back.
Frankly, there's a lot that JFW 7 has to offer, and I'veareencounteredmany of the problems that others have. Obviously, thereadditionsinstalleddifferencesinsystem performance due to different display adapters,drivers,betterinstalled software and so forth. But, I find that JFW 7 performsoncertain web pages and with certain forms; and othermail.clipboardassuchimproved table formatting, MSN 7 support, the virtualfrustrationsfeature,abilityfirefox etc. are strong arguments to use 7 but have the fallbacktoyour version of choice.
Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:45 PM Subject: Re: jaws 7
Heya Judith,
stick with 5.1 as Ive decided to go back to it after manywith7
cheers,
Jim from Oz
----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Bron To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:20 AM Subject: jaws 7
Quite to my surprise I just got a CD of Jaws 7 in theaboutalludedAs Ito earlier I haven't been following all the complaintsjawsnewestthisversion because I didn't have it and was content with mysubjecteasyShould5.1.Iinstall the new jaws or stick with my jaws 5.1? Is it asusetoas5.1? Thanks, Judith
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