Re: jaws 7

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:54:14 -0800

Well, thanks.  I can see in my blurry way that the program interface is on 
the screen, but I can't see clearly enough with my central vision (the part 
of the retina we use for reading, seeing faces, etc., none of which I can 
do) to see that the shark logo  is decorating it.  So when Judith referred 
only to the logo, and didn't just say that the  Main Jaws interface window 
was what she meant, I didn't know what to think.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 7


the JAWS logo is a shark. it appears in the main window when the window is
actually on the screen, instead of the system tray.



At 12:34 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
>I'm confused.  Judith referred to seeing a jaws logo on the screen.  I
>imagined that to be some sort of company design.  Are you saying that what
>she's seeing is the Jaws main interface and its menus?  it just seems fair
>to explain that this isn't decorative, but the basic interface of the
>program, and *then* to explain that the program can be run like her other
>applications, so that it's always available the way Word is, or made to run
>in the system tray, where it won't be seen unless called up from the system
>tray or by pressing Insert J.
>
>Now, if a logo like a shark is what's on the screen, that's a different
>matter, of course...
>loo or that was
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:14 PM
>Subject: Re: jaws 7
>
>
>Hi Judith
>
>Ok, do the following to get rid of the JAWS window on the screen, if you
>haven't figured this out already on your own doing some searching.
>go to your JAWS window and go to options, and then basics...
>when you press enter here, you'll get a dialogue box with a few checkboxes.
>the one you want to check is, run JAWS from system tray.  Check this box.
>then go through the options and set things how you want them. If you're
>unsure of what an item in the list is, press insert plus f1 and you'll hear
>a description of the current item and what it does. then press ok.
>
>Ok, now you should be bak at your regular JAWS window again.  To get JAWS
>to run in your system tray which will keep the JAWS window off the screen
>but still running, you'll need to unload JAWS with insert plus f4 and then
>restart JAWS.  By default, JAWS puts a desktop icon for itselfon your
>desktop, so before you hit alt plus f4 to restart, press windows key plus m
>and then press j until you hear JAWS 7.0
>Ok, now do your insert plus f4 to lose JAWS and then press ok to close
>it.  Now if you're focused on the desktop icon for JAWS 7, which you should
>be, just wait a few seconds, and then press enter. In a few seconds, JAWS
>should load up again, and then you should be able to access everything in
>your JAWS menu a little easier with insert j. it'll pop up your different
>JAWS menu items in a context menu.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
>
>   At 11:12 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> >Well, For the most part it is working.  However, I keep getting the jaws
> >logo up on the screen.  Is there a way to avoid this?
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:16 AM
> >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> >
> >
> > > That's what I had read--there is a separate version for Windows 98. As 
> > > I
> >have said, I should have gone to the web site to verify this first. 
> >Thanks
> >for that, Chris.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > >
> > >
> > > hi
> > > There is  *most definitely* a version of JAWS 7 for windows 98. In 
> > > fact
> > > with the CD Judith has, the proper version is installed based on the
> > > operating system being used.
> > > So she wouldn't need to ditch the cd and re-download it at all, the cd
> >just
> > > installs the proper version. nice!
> > >
> > > At 10:31 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > > >Judith, I believe I read in the Jaws 7 release notes that version 7 
> > > >was
> > > >NOT meant for Windows 98.
> > > >You can certainly have more than one version of Jaws on your system
> > > >though--although I guess your ram capacity would bear on that. Also,
> > > >Version 7 is, I believe about 7 megs in size so we should really know 
> > > >a
> > > >little more about your system before giving a definitive answer.
> > > >I use the hot key combo control alt 5, control alt 6 and control alt 
> > > >j
> >for
> > > >versions 5, 6 and 7 respectively.
> > > >I like version 7 best of all but so far I have not experienced many 
> > > >of
> >the
> > > >problems others have spoken of.
> > > >I am quite certain though that version 7 is specifically not
> > > >recommended
> > > >for Windows 98.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:12 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I just went to the FS website and read of the new features.  Quite
> >honestly,
> > > >the spike feature discussed earlier this week would allow me to 
> > > >collect
> > > >material on the clipboard and paste it all when I was ready.  The 
> > > >other
> >new
> > > >feature that allows for easier menu reading has never been a problem
> > > >for
> >me.
> > > >One thing that I forgot to point out is that I'm working on windows 
> > > >98.
> > > >Would this pose a problem if I decided to install the program? 
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Judith
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:08 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > There's one on the FS Website. It will be better at listing the
> > > > > improvements than any of us could be.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bruce Toews
> > > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
> > > > > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> >http://www.ogts.net
> > > > > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have a list of improvements in jaws 7?  So far its 2
> >against
> > > >and
> > > > > > 1 for.  Still thinking on it.  Judith
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Guys,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Really, now.  One doesn't have to mutually exclude the other? 
> > > > > >> I
> >think
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > >> been noted countless times, you can upgrade but if there are
> > > > > >> areas
> > > >where
> > > > > >> things may not work right, it isn't a criminal offense to keep
> > > > > >> the
> > > >older
> > > > > >> version there as a fall-back.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Frankly, there's a lot that JFW 7 has to offer, and I've not
> > > >encountered
> > > > > >> many of the problems that others have.  Obviously, there are
> > > >differences
> > > > > > in
> > > > > >> system performance due to different display adapters, installed
> > > >drivers,
> > > > > >> installed software and so forth.  But, I find that JFW 7 
> > > > > >> performs
> > > >better
> > > > > > on
> > > > > >> certain web pages and with certain forms; and other additions
> > > > > >> such
> >as
> > > > > >> improved table formatting, MSN 7 support, the virtual clipboard
> > > >feature,
> > > > > >> firefox etc. are strong arguments to use 7 but have the 
> > > > > >> fallback
> > > >ability
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >> your version of choice.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Steve
> > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:45 PM
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Heya Judith,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> stick with 5.1 as Ive decided to go back to it after many
> >frustrations
> > > > > > with
> > > > > >> 7
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> cheers,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Jim from Oz
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>   From: Judith Bron
> > > > > >>   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >>   Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:20 AM
> > > > > >>   Subject: jaws 7
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>   Quite to my surprise I just got a CD of Jaws 7 in the mail. 
> > > > > >> As
> > > > > >> I
> > > > > > alluded
> > > > > >> to earlier I haven't been following all the complaints about 
> > > > > >> this
> > > >newest
> > > > > >> version because I didn't have it and was content with my jaws
> > > > > >> 5.1.
> > > >Should
> > > > > > I
> > > > > >> install the new jaws or stick with my jaws 5.1?  Is it as easy 
> > > > > >> to
> >use
> > > >as
> > > > > >> 5.1?  Thanks, Judith
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >>
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