Re: jaws 7
- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:44:15 -0500
Thanks so much for this! I pasted it into a document and will get on it
asap. Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 7
> Hi Judith
>
> Ok, now let's make this super simple. Forget all this customize
punctuation
> stuff, that's nice but it's taking the long way around. Here's how to do
> what you want and make the change permanent.
>
> 1. press your insert key and while holding that down, press the number 6
> on the number row. not the keypad on the right side of the keyboard, but
> the big line of numbers at the top row of keys.
>
> 2. Now depending what program you're in at the time, you're gonna hear
the
> name of a program followed by .jcf JAWS configuration manager. We want
to
> be in the default file which controls everything.
> To do this, press control, plus shift, plus d. When you do this, you
> should get confirmation that you're there, but if you have any doubts,
> press insert plus t and JAWS will tell you what program is running on your
> title bar.
>
> If it says, default.jcf JAWS configuration manager, you're all set so far.
> 3.
> Ok, now let's fix your punctuation.
> Go to the set options menu with alt plus s. Now press your up arrow 4
> times and you *should* hear, synthesizer options...
> Now press enter.
> Press your tab key and you should hear, punctuation combo box, and then
one
> of the choices. you have none, some, most and all. so just arrow down to
> the one you want, and then tab to ok.
> 4. Press alt f4 and you should be asked if you'd like to save the
changes,
> which you do, so press ok and that's it, you're done.
> There you are.
>
>
>
>
> At 08:29 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
> >When I get to the option I want i.e. "all punctuation" how do I activate
> >that option? Do I press the space bar? Hit enter? Someother form of
> >activation?
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> >
> >
> > > I believe it says "customize ..." Whenever you hear "..." i.e. dot dot
dot
> >that means you have to press the enter key.
> > > It sounds like you are on the fourth option which allows you to make
> >changes to each punctuation character and there are 79 of them.
> > > As I said, an easier option for you depending on how fluent you are in
> >using jaws would be to arrow down to the 14th option (synthesizer options
> >and you have only four changes for punctuation there--none, some, most or
> >all.
> > > This will affect all punctuation characters equally and is a much less
> >flexible option but since you had all punctuation turned on previously,
this
> >would likely be the easiest option for you.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > >
> > >
> > > Once I hear "customize changes" how do I make the choice? Do I hit a
> >space
> > > bar or something else? Judith
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:08 AM
> > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > >
> > >
> > > > Judith, the punctuation settings are found in the jaws configuration
> > > manager.
> > > > Insert (jaws key) 6 on the number row keys.
> > > > Press the alt key to bring up your menus.
> > > > Arrow down till you hear default.jcf or anything with the word
default
> >to
> > > make global changes.
> > > > Press the right arrow once to go to the set options menu.
> > > > Down arrow about 4 times until you hear "customize punctuation" and
make
> > > your changes there.
> > > > Or, another very easy option is from within the same set options
menu,
> > > > arrow down I believe it is 14 times until you hear "synthesizer
> > > options..." and press enter here.
> > > > Here you will have a choice of none, some, most or all punctuation
> >spoken.
> > > > Hope I have not missed any steps--I have just gone through the
process
> > > myself so hope I have made things clear enough.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, I just installed jaws 7 and it is working except for one
problem.
> > > On
> > > > jaws 5.1 jaws spoke all the punctuation but its not speaking that
now.
> > > Can
> > > > someone send me the instructions to get back the punctuation?
Thanks,
> > > > Judith
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:31 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Judith, I believe I read in the Jaws 7 release notes that version
7
> >was
> > > > NOT meant for Windows 98.
> > > > > You can certainly have more than one version of Jaws on your
system
> > > > though--although I guess your ram capacity would bear on that. Also,
> > > Version
> > > > 7 is, I believe about 7 megs in size so we should really know a
little
> > > more
> > > > about your system before giving a definitive answer.
> > > > > I use the hot key combo control alt 5, control alt 6 and control
alt j
> > > for
> > > > versions 5, 6 and 7 respectively.
> > > > > I like version 7 best of all but so far I have not experienced
many of
> > > the
> > > > problems others have spoken of.
> > > > > I am quite certain though that version 7 is specifically not
> >recommended
> > > > for Windows 98.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:12 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I just went to the FS website and read of the new features. Quite
> > > > honestly,
> > > > > the spike feature discussed earlier this week would allow me to
> >collect
> > > > > material on the clipboard and paste it all when I was ready. The
> >other
> > > > new
> > > > > feature that allows for easier menu reading has never been a
problem
> >for
> > > > me.
> > > > > One thing that I forgot to point out is that I'm working on
windows
> >98.
> > > > > Would this pose a problem if I decided to install the program?
> >Thanks,
> > > > > Judith
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:08 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > There's one on the FS Website. It will be better at listing the
> > > > > > improvements than any of us could be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Bruce Toews
> > > > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > > http://www.ogts.net
> > > > > > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone have a list of improvements in jaws 7? So far its
2
> > > > against
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > 1 for. Still thinking on it. Judith
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Guys,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Really, now. One doesn't have to mutually exclude the other?
I
> > > > think
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > >> been noted countless times, you can upgrade but if there are
> >areas
> > > > > where
> > > > > > >> things may not work right, it isn't a criminal offense to
keep
> >the
> > > > > older
> > > > > > >> version there as a fall-back.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Frankly, there's a lot that JFW 7 has to offer, and I've not
> > > > > encountered
> > > > > > >> many of the problems that others have. Obviously, there are
> > > > > differences
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> system performance due to different display adapters,
installed
> > > > > drivers,
> > > > > > >> installed software and so forth. But, I find that JFW 7
performs
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > >> certain web pages and with certain forms; and other additions
> >such
> > > as
> > > > > > >> improved table formatting, MSN 7 support, the virtual
clipboard
> > > > > feature,
> > > > > > >> firefox etc. are strong arguments to use 7 but have the
fallback
> > > > > ability
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> your version of choice.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Steve
> > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >> From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:45 PM
> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Heya Judith,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> stick with 5.1 as Ive decided to go back to it after many
> > > > frustrations
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > >> 7
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> cheers,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Jim from Oz
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >> From: Judith Bron
> > > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:20 AM
> > > > > > >> Subject: jaws 7
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Quite to my surprise I just got a CD of Jaws 7 in the mail.
As
> >I
> > > > > > > alluded
> > > > > > >> to earlier I haven't been following all the complaints about
this
> > > > > newest
> > > > > > >> version because I didn't have it and was content with my jaws
> >5.1.
> > > > > Should
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > >> install the new jaws or stick with my jaws 5.1? Is it as
easy to
> > > use
> > > > > as
> > > > > > >> 5.1? Thanks, Judith
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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