Re: jaws 12 Dec Talk access 32
- From: Brandon Misch <bmisch2002@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 21:43:49 -0400
access 32 used to come with jaws but that was years ago.
On Oct 30, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Yadiel Sotomayor wrote:
> ?Now that you mention it. Eloquence comes equipt with talks? I was wondering
> about that. It makes me want to switch to talks. lol. Now, I agree that we
> need choices when it comes to our speech engines. FS says that realspeak is
> better for very long documents. I disagree completely. They just don't work.
> For quick notes and for sighted users, then yes. Now, I won't switch
> eloquence any time soon, however, it will be great if jaws would bring more
> speech engines by default. Come on, it cost over 1,000.
>
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> From: "Daniel McGee" <mc-g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 6:55 PM
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: jaws 12 Dec Talk access 32
>
>> Hi too all note I changed the subject to reflect what we are all talking
>> about with jaws.
>> To be quite frank, from what I'vered with this topic so far I am disgusted!
>> That this hasn't been fixed! Although I have not used this speach
>> synthesizer, having being happy with eloquence and have used it all the way
>> since I've lost my sight, I really do stress that what one likes need to be
>> fixed if its broken or not! I say this because I have had a moderatly in
>> pared hearing lost since birth and I completely understand what you are all
>> saying! For me for example If we didn't have Eloquence and had only the real
>> speak solo direct synthesizers to use with Jaws, then I'm afraid with a
>> quote, "I just wouldn't be able to use it!" For me its all about clarity and
>> pronunciation. If people would like me too, I would be more than
>> happy to email FS I don't know if they will respond but I feel if we all
>> email them about this issue then the more the need and then the need
>> hopefully becomes a reality! If you would like me to do that then just let
>> me know.
>> A perfect example was when I had mobile speak 1.x something which had the
>> good old eloquence on it! then a few years later having brought a new phone
>> and installed the latest version of mobile speak. I found that they had done
>> away with eloquence which went to talks I emailed the company about mobile
>> speak not having eloquence and they said they couldn't obtain it back
>> because it was tied to talks the other mobile screenreader.
>> What I am getting at is that I think this is disgraceful! Don't they
>> consider people being hearing inpared as well as being blind? Sorry for the
>> rant but to me its very important that I have the right voice to be able to
>> use my screenreader.
>> Ok well that's my say getting off topic so will stop hear! LOL
>> Thanks
>> DAniel
>>
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>> From: "Yadiel Sotomayor" <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:41 PM
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: jaws 12:
>>
>>> ? I am not complainning. In fact I have hearing lost from my right ear. I
>>> was just wondering why all the fuzz for access 32.
>>>
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>>> From: "ptusing" <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 5:03 PM
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: jaws 12:
>>>
>>>> HI,
>>>> AFter there were several good messages about the need for Access 32, we
>>>> got the usual comment that we should shut upand settle forwhat will "not"
>>>> allow elder ands ome younger with double hearing loss (even mild) and
>>>> vision loss to use a screen reader.
>>>>
>>>> This is important.
>>>>
>>>> So I answered this iditot....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Friday, October 29, 2010 4:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 12:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I spent one entire month.
>>>>> At thistime, there is no way to get a version of Access 32 that will work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Curtis wrote
>>>>> I knew they definitely have sabotaged the working of Dec_access32 and
>>>>> there is not a single potential of doubt of it, period. No discussion is
>>>>> possible since it is like claiming something is supported and then
>>>>> denying problems all in the same breath, blaming as you say GW-Micr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 6:11 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 12:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I will definitely give this a try, and thank you very much. . .
>>>>> I knew they definitely have sabotaged the working of Dec_access32 and
>>>>> there is not a single potential of doubt of it, period. No discussion is
>>>>> possible since it is like claiming something is supported and then
>>>>> denying problems all in the same breath, blaming as you say GW-Micro.
>>>>> Proves there is an issue with the suit, seems to me, after all, and quite
>>>>> small of a so-called "leader" in screen readers, tiny and irresponsible
>>>>> and purely childish.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Curtis Delzer.
>>>>> HS.
>>>>>
>>>>> to download the Haven cell phone tour.
>>>>> in part or in whole
>>>>> http://www.mysticplace.info/audio/haven
>>>>>
>>>>> for 6000 plus ring tones.
>>>>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/wch4yb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> on Thursday 10/28/2010 10:34 AM, Gary King said:
>>>>>> Curtis,
>>>>>> I went round and round with FS when they broke support for the version
>>>>>> of DEC Access32 purchased from GW Micro in the JFW 11 Final Release. It
>>>>>> worked all the way through the Public Beta of JFW 11 and in all previous
>>>>>> versions of JFW. They never admitted to doing anything to break this
>>>>>> support. I even wrote to Eric Damery, and he put me in touch with the
>>>>>> JFW development team. That didn't do any good either. Even after I
>>>>>> explained that this synthesizer had been working on my XP Home system
>>>>>> for 5 years, they wanted to blame it on the GW Micro installation. They
>>>>>> also wanted me to help them obtain a license for the synthesizer because
>>>>>> they claimed they didn't own it. Of course, no licenses are available
>>>>>> now from GW Micro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now for the good news. I am still using DEC Access32 with both JFW 11
>>>>>> and 12. I'm not guarantying this method will work for anyone else. I
>>>>>> have DEC Access32 set to be my Default synthesizer. Unfortunately, this
>>>>>> results in Eloquence doing all the talking. By experimentation, I found
>>>>>> that I could open Default.jcf in my User Settings folder and enter 4
>>>>>> into the Active equals line instead of the 5 that JFW uses for the DEC
>>>>>> Access32 profile. I was never able to figure out why this works, but it
>>>>>> does for me. The drawback to this work-around is that if I make any
>>>>>> changes in the Voice Profile, my entry of 4 is replaced with 5 again,
>>>>>> and I have to perform the replacement once more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can try this work-around for yourself, but I can't provide any
>>>>>> further help than I have provided here. I would be interested to know
>>>>>> though if it works for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary King
>>>>>> w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:54 AM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: jaws 12:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jaws 12? and why has FS given up support for Dec_access32 where it
>>>>>>>> just will not either work or if it does at all, it stops immediately.
>>>>>>>> That is what eleven did, and in tweleve, It will not even begin to
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (xp of course). I am aware that Vista and Windows 7 cannot use
>>>>>>> Dec_access32, but us XP users it works fine. JFW 10 has no problem with
>>>>>>> it, but not 11 or 12.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer.
>>>>>>> HS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to download the Haven cell phone tour.
>>>>>>> in part or in whole
>>>>>>> http://www.mysticplace.info/audio/haven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for 6000 plus ring tones.
>>>>>>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/wch4yb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> 18mph gusting to 24mph
>>>>>>> A snail can sleep for 3 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>> W B 6 H E F
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Currently in Fessenden, North Dakota Clear, 26°F Wind:SSE-150° at 3mph
>>>>> A commuter is one who never knows how a movie ends because he has to
>>>>> leave early to catch a train to get him back to the country in time to
>>>>> catch a train to bring him back to the city.
>>>>>
>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>> W B 6 H E F
>>>>>
>>>>>
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