There was a question, whether, it is sometimes ok just to use the
reset button, (other than power) to shut down or restart the
computer. What this does in most machines is to interrupt, without
ceremony of any kind, the power to your hard drive. If any writing is
taking place, it is unceremoniously stopped, so there is a file
fragment which, when you restart is not accounted for, and you
probably get an error under the hood which results in a *.chk file
being written when you either run chkdsk in xp or scandisk in windows
98 or earlier. These *.chk files aren't just those files, they can
be fragments of doc files, data files or programs which get
re-written for the programmers or author's reasons which are not
properly saved. So, to sum up, that "reset" button is even more
dangerous to your computer's software and hardware than the reboot
sequence, even a forced one with the power button since, it is more abrupt.
Curtis Delzer
ok daniel
i have an e machine pc and when i first went into the power settings i found the power button to be set up to do nothing.
as far as shutting down is concerned all i do is press the main power button for less than a second and it starts the shut down sequence.
i find this to be very very useful when jaws has crashed and no other way is available to restart my machine.
hth.
stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
Stephen, I just went and looked at that combo box of possibilities for what you want to happen when you push the power button while the machine is on.
But, Stephen, shutting down is the ordinary default function to begin with. At least it certainly was with my computer, an ordinary Dell Dimension 3000 running Win XP Home with SP 2. Pushing and holding down the power button while the computer is running shuts it down for me, and did from the beginning. am I to infer that your computer was set up differently at first? If so, what happened when you pushed and held the power button while the computer was running? Did it do one of those other options?
thanks for explaining,
Daniel
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Faill" <stephen.faill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
Daniel
Ok goto settings, control panel, power options.
once in here goto the advanced tab and tab to when i press the power button and here you will have a combo box of 5 items that you can assign to the main power button on your machine.
hth
stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
Hi,
I'm afraid I don't understand what you say, below, about the method you figured out for yourself. Going to the control panel, and a combo box, and having a button shut down? i don't get it. Could you try to rephrase this? Now you've made me really curious to find out this possibly helpful workaround. Also, by the way, I didn't know this had started with being in an emergency cituation because Jaws had stopped. Daniel
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Faill" <stephen.faill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
Daniel
this thread was started by me and i had originally asked this question because jaws had stopped talking.
i found the most helpful reply to be going to power settings in the control panel and going to the advanced tab and using the combo box to have the power button to shut down for me.
hth
stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
Hi, I've been hesitating to ask this, because I'm afraid I may be missing something obvious, and I don't wish to be insulting if there's some sort of serious problem I don't know about that needs solving. But I'll ask anyway, because I'm so curious after following this thread. First of all, how could it be that people are skilled enough with their computers to be participating in a mailing list like this one, and yet don't know how to shut down their computers even in the standard manner? I honestly don't understand that. Aren't basic instructions provided when someone gets a computer? You just exit your running applications and, now on the desktop, either put up the Start menu by pressing the left Start key, or the Windows key on the right, or Control Escape. Then press U for the Shut Down command and then choose U from the dialogue that opens, unless you want to restart, which means pressing R or alt R, and so forth, just as the dialogue instructs you. Or, as some folks have said, you can just exit your running applications so that you're just on the desktop, and then press the good old Alt F4 keystroke combo that's a nearly universal way to exit something in Windows, and then respond to that same dialogue with your choice as described above.
either of these two methods takes far less time to execute than to describe, just a matter of a few seconds and a few keystrokes that become second nature without much effort. So, I'm wondering, why especially does anyone need a hotkey for any of this?
as I said above, this is a sincere question, not sarcastic. Can anyone explain what inspired this thread so that I can get whatever it is that I'm missing, in case it's a window onto a new, critically efficient computer operation I might profit by learning?
thanks, Daniel
----- Original Message ----- From: "harry bates" <hdbates@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:50 AM Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
Unfortunately, I deleted the message that gave the steps to shutdown the computer, but I do wish to say thanks for the one that said: If you have a windows xp system, this really works: press the windows key and then press the letter "u" twice to shutdown or windows key u and then r to restart. The shutdown command for a windows xp system is then: windows key,u,u to shutdown or windows key,u,r to restart. Thanks for providing this quicker and better way of doing the shutdown.
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