RE: hotkey for shutdown?

  • From: "jim grimsby jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:54:16 -0700

The funny thing is there are days only a few where this option really
sounds like a good idea.

Jim Grimsby jr.
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Gomes
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:40 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?


well yard bird and all wanting to know how to do a proper shut down.
Here is 
how it is done. If the computer locks up and you get tired of pushing
the 
power button and pressing the start menu key and the letter u. If this 
doesn't work unplug all the wires from their outlets that lead to the 
computer. This should give you about six feet of cord. Now take it over
to 
the window and open the window and let it hang as far down as you can.
Now 
start swinging it from left to right and really get it going. A little 
singing helps too. Now lets really get that computer swinging as high as
we 
can. Then let it go and you will hear a thud. It will be all shut down
and 
life will be just fine.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?


> Aha.  Okay, I knew the perils of doing the latter.  I mean the long 
> hold-down.  And you're saying that if you have it set to shut down 
> with a button push, then only a brief push is required, much like the 
> way you push it to boot up?  Darn.  When I push the power button in an

> emergency situation where my system has locked up and I can't exit my 
> running applications or anything else, the conservative button-push 
> doesn't seem to
> do anything.  Do you think that if I pushing it briefly, but then
waited a
> while to see what happened, that the computer would go through some
sort 
> of
> orderly shutdown process?  Am I not waiting long enough to see if a
brief
> button push does anything?  Know what I'm saying?
>
> Thanks  As you see, my question is entirely sincere, and I was also 
> being sincere in my earlier request for Allan to clarify what he said.

> I hope Allan understood this, too; I think he's a generous contributor

> to the list, a high-quality list member.  There's someone here who 
> started flaming me in
> private email for asking someone to explain this distinction between a

> quick
> button press and holding the button, as you're doing.  I'm just
mentioning
> this in case I've done anything unkind or undiplomatic, which I hope
isn't
> the case.
>
> But that isn't your problem.  Sorry.  Just tired of getting slammed by
> this
> person, who's taken it upon himself to be my own private al qaeda
suicide
> martyr for some reason.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bobcat" <bobcat11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:01 AM
> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>
>
> If you have it set to shutdown in advanced power options then just 
> press
> the
> power button shortly.  Holding the power button down longer forces the
> computer to power down without a safe shut down.  It's somewhat like 
> pulling
> the plug but not quite as nasty.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>
>
>> But Allan,what is the way you believe is proper to push the power 
>> button to shut down the computer if you have it set to do that in the
>> Power/advanced
>> settings?  This sounds confusing.  You know, my power settings
feature is
>> set for pushing the power button to shut down the computer.  Yes?
Okay.
>> But you know, if I just push and hold it for a second, no longer than
the
>> time I hold it when booting up, nothing at all happens, at least no
>> immediately.  I've never pushed the button only briefly then waited
to 
>> see
>> if anything happened after a few minutes.
>>
>> This is not clear to me.  it sounds contradictory. Set the power 
>> setting so that the button turns off the computer, but don't hold the

>> power button because to use it for this is not good for the computer.

>> Do you see what it
>> is that seems contradictory to me?
>> Thanks.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Allan Wong" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>>
>>
>> no Daniel, press and hold down the power button for 4 second will 
>> force the computer shutdown not in proper manner and this is not
>> advice to do un lest no others choice.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Allan Wong
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 05:53
>> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>>
>>
>> Stephen,
>> I just went and looked at that combo box of possibilities for what 
>> you want to happen when you push the  power button while the machine 
>> is on.
>>
>> But, Stephen, shutting down is the ordinary default function to begin

>> with. At least it certainly was with my computer, an ordinary Dell 
>> Dimension 3000
>> running Win XP Home with SP 2.  Pushing and holding down the power
button
>> while the computer is running shuts it down for me, and did from the
>> beginning.  am I to infer that your computer was set up differently
at
>> first?  If so, what happened when you pushed and held the power
button
>> while
>> the computer was running?  Did it do one of those other options?
>>
>> thanks for explaining,
>> Daniel
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stephen Faill" <stephen.faill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> Ok goto settings, control panel, power options.
>>
>> once in here goto the advanced tab and tab to when i press the power 
>> button and here you will have a combo box of 5 items that you can 
>> assign to the main power button on your machine.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> stephen
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm afraid I don't understand what you say, below, about the method 
>>> you figured out for yourself.  Going to the control panel, and a 
>>> combo box, and having a button shut down?  i don't get it.  Could 
>>> you try to rephrase this?
>>> Now you've made me really curious to find out this possibly helpful
>>> workaround.  Also, by the way, I didn't know this had started with
being
>>> in
>>> an emergency cituation because Jaws had stopped.
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Faill" <stephen.faill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> this thread was started by me and i had originally asked this 
>>> question because jaws had stopped talking.
>>>
>>> i found the most helpful reply to be going to power settings in the 
>>> control panel and going to the advanced tab and using the combo box 
>>> to have the power button to shut down for me.
>>>
>>> hth
>>>
>>> stephen
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I've been hesitating to ask this, because I'm afraid I may be 
>>>> missing something obvious, and I don't wish to be insulting if 
>>>> there's some sort of
>>>> serious problem I don't know about that needs solving.  But I'll
ask
>>>> anyway,
>>>> because I'm so curious after following this thread.  First of all,
how
>>>> could
>>>> it be that people are skilled enough with their computers to be
>>>> participating in a mailing list like this one, and yet don't know
how 
>>>> to
>>>> shut down their computers even in the standard manner?  I honestly 
>>>> don't
>>>> understand that.  Aren't basic instructions provided when someone
gets 
>>>> a
>>>> computer?  You just exit your running applications and, now on the
>>>> desktop,
>>>> either put up the Start menu by pressing the left Start key, or the
>>>> Windows
>>>> key on the right, or Control Escape.  Then press U for the Shut
Down
>>>> command
>>>> and then choose U from the dialogue that opens, unless you want to
>>>> restart,
>>>> which means pressing R or alt R, and so forth, just as the dialogue
>>>> instructs you.  Or, as some folks have said, you can just exit your
>>>> running
>>>> applications so that you're just on the desktop, and then press the

>>>> good
>>>> old
>>>> Alt F4 keystroke combo that's a nearly universal way to exit
something
>>>> in
>>>> Windows, and then respond to that same dialogue with your choice as
>>>> described above.
>>>>
>>>> either of these two methods takes far less time to execute than to 
>>>> describe, just a matter of a few seconds and a few keystrokes that 
>>>> become second nature without much effort.  So, I'm wondering, why 
>>>> especially does anyone
>>>> need a hotkey for any of this?
>>>>
>>>> as I said above, this is a sincere question, not sarcastic.  Can 
>>>> anyone explain what inspired this thread so that I can get whatever

>>>> it is that I'm missing, in case it's a window onto a new, 
>>>> critically efficient computer
>>>> operation I might profit by learning?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "harry bates" <hdbates@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, I deleted the message that gave the steps to 
>>>> shutdown
>>>> the
>>>> computer, but I do wish to say thanks for the one that said:
>>>> If you have a windows xp system, this really works:
>>>> press the windows key and then press the letter "u" twice to
shutdown 
>>>> or
>>>> windows key u and then r to restart.
>>>> The shutdown command for a windows xp system is then:
>>>> windows key,u,u to shutdown or
>>>> windows key,u,r to restart.
>>>> Thanks for providing this quicker and better way of doing the
shutdown.
>>>>
>>>>
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