RE: help with jfw 5 and Microsoft Word
- From: "emarquette" <emarquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:26:44 -0500
You are right. I don't use 5.0 all that often, so I was unaware of this
act of self-inflicted brain damage on the product.
Among other abominations, the read attributes verbosity setting in MS
Word has been removed in Version 5.0.
There is a way you can determine attributes in the way you like, even in
5.0, but it is a long road.
In fact, it is ten times harder to get to, but here is what you do:
1. When in MS Word, press Jaws key plus F-2.
2. Then arrow to Configuration Manager (it is the first option). Then,
hit Enter.
3. Next, arrow down to Sound manager. Then press ENTER.
4. Then, arrow down to "proofing." It says something like "announces
attributes." Then Press Enter.
5. Close everything. When you get back to word, you should be able to
distinguish attributes.
Jaws key plus F is a whole lot quicker.
Ed Marquette
930 West 34th St.
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 561- 7111
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Terra Syslo
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:04 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: help with jfw 5 and Microsoft Word
Hi, thanks for the suggestions. I no longer have version 4.51. I
didn't see the attribute changes in verbosity like in 4.51. I'll have
to try jaws key f to see if that helps. personal email:
tsyslo@xxxxxxxxxxxx MSN Messenger: tlsyslo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx AOL instant
messenger: drizzlecat
----- Original Message -----
From: "emarquette" <emarquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:52 PM
Subject: RE: help with jfw 5 and Microsoft Word
You have identified three issues. I will address them in order. 1. JFW
indeed will say the word over and over again if it is surrounded by
punctuation marks. If there is a way to fix it, I am unaware of it.
That's just the way Word functions. WordPerfect, by contrast, considers
all the stuff between spaces to be a single word. Just keep on pressing
JAWS and the arrow keys, knowing the word is repeated because it has to
swollow each of the punctuation marks.
2. There are several ways to get attribute information:
A. When on the suspect text, press JAWS key plus F. That will get you
font information plus attribute information. Try pressing the key
combination twice quickly. You get somewhat different information. B.
Turn on attribute changes in the JAWS Verbosity menu, accessed by
pressing JAWS key plus the V key. C. For a quick and dirty review of
text (probably more than you want), but with attribute information
articulated, press Alt plus JAWS key plus down arrow.
3. I don't think the functionality of 4.51 and 5.0 is different with
respect to reading word at a time. As for 5.0 as compared to 4.51 in
terms of video accuracy, there are lots of things 5.0 cannot do that
4.51 can. My advice is to keep 4.51 installed. When 5.0 refuses to give
you information, dump it, and read with 4.51. Perhaps the video bugs in
5.0 will be fixed in 5.1.
Ed Marquette
930 West 34th St.
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 561- 7111
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Terra Syslo
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:38 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: help with jfw 5 and Microsoft Word
I am having some problems with JFW 5.0 and MS Word 2000. When I am
reading by word jaws likes to read every word with punctuation in it
twice, or more depending on how many punctuation symbols are in the
word. Is there a way to make it quit doing this? Also, I am trying to
put something in bold, and try and read it to see if it worked. Jaws is
not saying when there are format changes. How do I fix this? It worked
in 4.51. personal email: tsyslo@xxxxxxxxxxxx MSN Messenger:
tlsyslo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx AOL instant messenger: drizzlecat
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