Dave, Not wrong. What you go on to say is correct, but we have to assume a level of experience when contributing to this list unless asked to elaborate. I was making the distinction between a key combination where you end up with all three keys pressed at the same time and a key sequence where one key is released before the next is pressed. This distinction is standard practice on this list. If we followed your approach, we'd be explaining every time where to locate the Windows key, the applications key, and so on. All the regular contributors are happy to step back when asked to give more basic explanations for listers new to JAWS, but for the most part they aren't needed. _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:06 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: help with jaws crashing. Adrian: Wrong. The first key in a two key command key combination or the first two keys in a three key command key combination, ETC., must be pressed and held down before tapping the last key. Sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian <mailto:Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Spratt To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 8:59 AM Subject: RE: help with jaws crashing. JAWS key + Windows key + F4, all at once. _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of andy Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: help with jaws crashing. hello listers a few weeks ago some one posted a message about a key combonation you could press when jaws crashed so that you could restart jaws i saved this message but for some reason it is gone. if some one could please tell me again what it was i would really appreciate it.