Hi, I believe you are referring to Bill Brown in Valdosta. See: www.musicvi.com See also: www.talkingtabs.com JAWS cannot intuit music notation or guitar tablature as far as I know. Mitch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <CBlackwell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: RE: guitar lessons with JAWS I think there is a blind guitar instructor out of Georga who does some things online and maybe on disc. Unfortunately, I don't remember his name or have his contact info. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:41 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: guitar lessons with JAWS hi, I do play guitar, but learned to do that when I was sighted. So far as I know, most printed or online instructional methods make important use of the visual, unfortunately, in ways for which there isn't any screen reader solution. I'd say the person should explore to see if there might be something that's entirely just speech or text perhaps with musical examples played, but that doesn't really make much sense to me. The thing is that, never mind the fact that some online guitar teaching uses videos so the student can imitate what the teacher does with his or her hands. That's obviously useless if you can't see it. But the more common traditional feature of written guitar teaching involves two graphical elements, neither of which can be spoken in the way we think of Jaws doing. One is called tablature, which is a series of illustrations of symbols and things that represent fingering positions and more. That's as specialized a system as, say, Braille. The other thing that often is used in teaching basic guitar are chord diagramsharts. Again, there isn't any way a screen reader could "see" such a thing. A chord shown this way would be a drawing of just a few frets of the guitar neck with lines for where the strings lie across the frets, with dots and special notations to indicate which finger goes where on the strings to produce this chord. Neither of these types of symbols can be interpreted with a screen reader, at all. I don't even know if there's any method of teaching guitar to someone who can't see the fingerboard and the strings except by showing and telling in person, which of course works if the teacher is patient and the student attentive. Good luck. If you happen to discover some sort of program that actually does work for teaching the blind guitar student, I'd love to hear about it and be able to pass it on. guiar stranfiger llpsotions entiher hguiimportnt , whether ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <amethyst17@xxxxxxx> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: guitar lessons with JAWS I have a friend who is interested in taking guitar lessons using a program purchased off the internet. He's concerned that JAWS won't work with it. I think he's using either JAWS 7.1 or 8. Has anyone had experience with this kind of thing, and if so, can you recommend a course he can use? Thanks. 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