Re: guitar lessons with JAWS

  • From: "Dave Mitchell" <dmitch44@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:31:38 -0700

Hi,  I believe you are referring to Bill Brown in Valdosta. See:

www.musicvi.com

See also:

www.talkingtabs.com

JAWS cannot intuit music notation or guitar tablature as far as I know. 
Mitch


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <CBlackwell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: guitar lessons with JAWS


I think there is a blind guitar instructor out of Georga who does some
things online and maybe on disc.  Unfortunately, I don't remember his
name or have his contact info.

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: guitar lessons with JAWS

hi,

I do play guitar, but learned to do that when I was sighted. So far as I
know, most printed or online instructional methods make important use of
the visual, unfortunately, in ways for which there isn't any screen
reader solution. I'd say the person should explore to see if there might
be something that's entirely just speech or text perhaps with musical
examples played, but that doesn't really make much sense to me.

The thing is that, never mind the fact that some online guitar teaching
uses videos so the student can imitate what the teacher does with his or
her hands. That's obviously useless if you can't see it. But the more
common traditional feature of written guitar teaching involves two
graphical elements, neither of which can be spoken in the way we think
of Jaws doing.
One is called tablature, which is a series of illustrations of symbols
and things that represent fingering positions and more. That's as
specialized a system as, say, Braille.

The other thing that often is used in teaching basic guitar are chord
diagramsharts. Again, there isn't any way a screen reader could "see"
such a thing. A chord shown this way would be a drawing of just a few
frets of the guitar neck with lines for where the strings lie across the
frets, with dots and special notations to indicate which finger goes
where on the strings to produce this chord.

Neither of these types of symbols can be interpreted with a screen
reader, at all. I don't even know if there's any method of teaching
guitar to someone who can't see the fingerboard and the strings except
by showing and telling in person, which of course works if the teacher
is patient and the student attentive.

Good luck. If you happen to discover some sort of program that actually
does work for teaching the blind guitar student, I'd love to hear about
it and be able to pass it on.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki" <amethyst17@xxxxxxx>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:55 AM
Subject: guitar lessons with JAWS


I have a friend who is interested in taking guitar lessons using a
program purchased off the internet. He's concerned that JAWS won't work
with it. I think he's using either JAWS 7.1 or 8. Has anyone had
experience with this kind of thing, and if so, can you recommend a
course he can use? Thanks.

Vicki

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