Re: getting jaws to come up talking.
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:03:09 -0700
Chris,
Well, it's okay anyway. Remember, I don't have a problem myself. I was just
trying to understand what was happening on the computer of the person who
did. thanks for the input.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.
Hi, I actually saw your message about your log-on situation after I sent my
thoughts to you. Anyway, I don't know much about Windows in terms of how
programmes are started due to priority levels. I guess though that by
default they'd all run as normal priority unless otherwise specified? I
don't know. It could just be that Windows is coded to load programmes at
startup in a certain or even random order. Maybe I should ask the tech lists
regarding this, purely for my own education.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.
> chris,
>
> I'm sorry. I thought the way I expressed what I said might have made it
> obvious that I'm running my own PC as Admin. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
> Of
> course I don't have a log-on dialogue.
>
> Second, do you mean something specific by saying maybe it's something
> about
> the interaction of the scanner and Jaws? I don't mean do you know exactly
> what this would be, but do you know some established principle of priority
> that may be at work? It's just an ordinary USB scanner, nothing unusual.
> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.
>
>
> Hi, two things I can think of. You don't have any accounts other than your
> administrative account, meaning Windows won't display the Windows Log On
> dialogue box. The other could be the scanner/JAWS combination, but since I
> don't have this combination to test with, I can't prove the latter. Hope
> this helps though.
>
> --
> Chris Hallsworth
>
> Derbyshire, UK
>
> E-mail
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>
> MSN
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>
> Skype
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>
> Website
> http://www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
>
> Klango
> chrishallsworth
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.
>
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> P.S. I just looked in my startup group list where you said to look, and
>> all
>> that's there is my Microtek scanner that I use with Open Book, running
>> its
>> self-test. Now, I don't know if this contradicts your definition or
>> experience, but that scanner test runs *before* Jaws speaks, and also my
>> Desktop is fully up and visible before Jaws speaks, also. I'm partial,
>> obviously.
>>
>> Does this contradict anything in your definition? Or does it imply that,
>> all
>> the while, Jaws is indeed loading but is hesitating to announce that it's
>> ready until the scanner test has finished and the Desktop screen elements
>> are all in place? is fully on the screen?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> fininsyedsannaobbvioslyu.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.
>>
>>
>> Hi all, when a programme runs as a service, it runs before Windows even
>> logs
>> you into your account should you have a log in dialogue box. This is why
>> JAWS and any other commercial screen reader can speak or braille from
>> within
>> the Windows log on dialogue box. This is not the case when a programme
>> runs
>> from the startup group, as these are executed after Windows is loaded and
>> you're on the desktop. FYI, the startup group is the startup folder,
>> found
>> under Start Menu, All Programmes, Startup. Hope this helps.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Hallsworth
>>
>> Derbyshire, UK
>>
>> E-mail
>> christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> MSN
>> ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Skype
>> chrishallsworth7266
>>
>> Website
>> http://www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
>>
>> Klango
>> chrishallsworth
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.
>>
>>
>>> Curtis,
>>>
>>> First, I'm surprised to hear that you ran the installation file and
>>> weren't
>>> presented with the repair and modify options when it found that Jaws was
>>> already on your computer. I'm assuming you didn't uninstall Jaws before
>>> trying this, of course! That is, as I think you know, the way to get to
>>> the
>>> repair function for a couple of versions now. There's an explanation of
>>> why
>>> it's not done through the old Start Menu method, but someone else here
>>> may
>>> remember the explanation. I've forgotten, myself.
>>>
>>> So that is one thing worth thinking about. Second, I thought that
>>> placing
>>> Jaws in the Startup Group, which is done by choosing that item from the
>>> options on the main Jaws window (start Jaws automatically, or however
>>> it's
>>> worded, now) *did* mean that you were making Jaws run as a service. I
>>> thought that was synonymous with saying something is in the startup
>>> group.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I'm sure someone will explain the
>>> distinction. But all of this sounds extremely frustrating and a little
>>> bit
>>> odd.
>>>
>>> I hope someone can offer something helpfully diagnostic.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:54 PM
>>> Subject: getting jaws to come up talking.
>>>
>>>
>>> My wife has a new computer, an AMD dual core 2.3Ghz with 2 gigs of
>>> ram. Jfw will not come up talking, no matter the start up setting. I
>>> re-installed, (looking for repair which did not exist for some
>>> reason), even running the downloaded installation without that option
>>> shown to me, so un-installed, and re-installed, keeping her settings
>>> for apps, etc. Still, the program, though it's loaded, will not come
>>> up talking. It is using the standard Eloquence that comes with it by
>>> default, so, any more ideas? If I am told how, I will set it up to
>>> run as a service, but need to know how to do that.
>>>
>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>
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