RE: free daisy player was: RE: JAWS 11
- From: "Bruce Toews" <Bruce@xxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:18:44 -0500
Freedom Scientific is a US-based company selling to a worldwide market.
The United States is only one country in that worldwide market.
Bruce
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:13:51 -0500, "Alex Midence"
<alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> My comment concerned the sale of a product by a U.S. based company to a
> U.S.
> market. Having been born in a country other than the U.S. I am acutely
> aware of the existence of other countries than this one. I don't know
> anything about library services available to blind readers there since I
> have had no cause to learn about such so I restricted my comments to what
> I
> knew.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:53 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: free daisy player was: RE: JAWS 11
>
> Well, for one thing, there are countries out there besides the US. This
> astounding fact may surprise some, but it's true. There will not be a
> PC-based solution for NLS books. NLS considers such anotion threatening
> for copyright reasons. No player plays RFB&D books right out of the box,
> a key must be purchased. As one of those mythical creatures known as a
> non-American, I'm glad that a high-quality PC-based solution for reading
> books will now be free. IT adds to the choices and is only a good thing.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:43:25 -0500, "Alex Midence"
> <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> > Hmm. I didn't know that about the FS Reader. It seems ridiculous to me
> > for
> > anyone to manufacture a daisy reader for sale in the U.S. that can not
> > access rfb&d and NLS material right out of the box. I can't think of two
> > sources of books that are more frequented by blind users. At least, not
> > in
> > the States. Glad its being included with Jaws 11 then.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Michael Malver
> > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:01 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: free daisy player was: RE: JAWS 11
> >
> > I wonder if the free daisy reader is being included because it just
> > wasn't
> > selling. I own a victor stream, and had no interest in buying the freedom
> > product in addition.. Even before I owned a stream, when I discovered
> > the
> > freedom scientific daisy player wouldn't be able to play nls books, I
> > wrote
> > the product off: after all, bookshare gave away a player with their
> > service,
> > and if you were going to use rfb&d, it was cheaper to buy a player
> > through
> > them than to buy a third party, and then have to buy a key.
> > Just my unasked for speculation.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Ray Foret jr
> > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:27 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: JAWS 11
> >
> > The little I can tell you is this.
> >
> > 1. JAWS 11 will officially support Windows 7.
> >
> > 2. The FS Daisy reader witch used to cost $79.00 or so will be fully
> > included with JAWS 11. In short, if you get JAWS 11, you will not have
> > the
> > demo version of FS Daisy reader; rather, the full version. That's all I
> > know for now.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
> >
> > "Old friend, what are you looking for? After those many years abroad you
> > come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
> > land"
> > George Seferis
> >
> > Phone or Fax::
> > +1 (985) 360-3614
> > Cell:
> > +1 (985) 791-2938
> > e-mail:
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> > Skype Name:
> > barefootedray
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:14 AM
> > Subject: JAWS 11
> >
> >
> > Have there been any bits of info coming out yet about JAWS 11. I haven't
> > seen anything!
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:38 AM
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: JAWS 10.0.1154 and tech support: was:Re: jfw offscreen model or
> > focus issue, jfw 10
> >
> > > Does the issue I reported on remind you of yours? The issue was that
> with
> > > JAWS 10.0.1154, I could not navigate message list views in Windows Mail
> > > nor
> > > file lists in the Explorer environment. The solution which was found
> was
> > > to
> > > delete the JAWS 10 shared items folder and then do a clean install of
> JAWS
> > > 10.0.1154. It Took John Carson, (an fS tech support supervisor), to
> solve
> > > this. It should not have taken Mr. Carson to have to take his time out
> to
> > > work with me on this one. Any FS tech support agent should have been
> able
> > > to suggest the things he suggested. Every so often, I do have to unload
> > > and
> > > restart JAWS, and sometimes, I do need to log off and log on again in
> > > order
> > > to get JAWS to focus correctly. I can only hope that JAWS 11 is going
> to
> > > be
> > > much more stable with regard to all these matters we've been bringing
> up.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
> > >
> > > "Old friend, what are you looking for? After those many years abroad
> you
> > > come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
> > > land"
> > > George Seferis
> > >
> > > Phone or Fax::
> > > +1 (985) 360-3614
> > > Cell:
> > > +1 (985) 791-2938
> > > e-mail:
> > > rforetjratcomcastdotnet
> > > Skype Name:
> > > barefootedray
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "paul faucheux" <pf112781@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> > >
> > >
> > > HI DAVE WHEN I go a change of screen resolution i find that jfw 9 does
> not
> > > read things at all also i get this in the windows explorer program! i
> hope
> > > that we can find a resolution to this issue. i am sometimes experiencing
> > > this in windows mail as well this should hel. by the way my name is paul
> > > faucheux! p paul fay
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave" <dave.mehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:15 PM
> > > Subject: RE: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >> Yah, can you describe your issue that's similar to mine, any thing
> > >> in particular seem to trigger it? My fix unfortunately is a reboot.
> > >> Thanks.
> > >> Dave.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > >> Behalf
> > >> Of paul faucheux
> > >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:07 PM
> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: Re: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> > >>
> > >> hi dave i have had simular issues before and just unloaded jfw and
> > >> reloaded
> > >> again!
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Dave" <dave.mehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:52 PM
> > >> Subject: RE: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> I've tried that. My solution is a reboot, this is annoying and
> > >>> shouldn't be necessary.
> > >>> I've got a separate email in to fs support i'll keep everyone
> > >>> informed.
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>> Dave.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > >>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:46 AM
> > >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: Re: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> > >>>
> > >>> Dave,
> > >>>
> > >>> Not JAWS 10 but JAWS 9 will routinely (as much as once a day) stop
> > >>> reading list items with the arrow. For example tabbing from the OE
> > >>> folder list to the message list is supposed to read the message
> > >>> highlighted, but it does not. Only way I've found to quickly remedy is
> > >>> to
> > >> kill JAWS and re-start.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dave
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Dave" <dave.mehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 16:01
> > >>> Subject: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>> I'm having a recurring and repeated problem with jfw 10 on multiple
> > >>> machines have i seen this. Jaws will stop reading and behave as i've
> > >>> got a completely blank screen, icons will not be read arrowing through
> > >>> dialog boxes will say no selected items yet not read out what the
> > >>> items are. This initially occurred on two laptops one for sure when i
> > >>> would lower the screen to conserve battery power this has a wireless
> > >>> keyboard on it, and then raise it again, that seemed to start it. Now
> > >>> it is happening on a desktop machine as well. I'm not certain if it's
> > >>> offscreen model, focus, or something caused whenever video intensive
> > >>> apps load. Has anyone else seen this?
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>> Dave.
> > >>>
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