Re: forms
- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:52:30 -0400
It's already off list.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: forms
> Okay, let's cool this a little, or take it off list please. Thanks plenty.
>
> James,
> List Admin
>
> At 11:58 PM 4/3/2005, you wrote:
> >Judith, this is uncalled for. I never did anything to you that you
should
> >deride me in front of this mailing list. I'm very disappointed, and
> >insulted that you should make such unfair and irrelevant accusations. I
> >hope that further thought will reveal to you another, more empathetic,
more
> >generous possibility for behavior.
> >
> >Thank you for everything,
> >Daniel
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:45 PM
> >Subject: Re: forms
> >
> >
> >You seem to get really into your jaws correspondence and give the
impression
> >that your knowledge is far superior to anyone else's. I know from
previous
> >correspondence that you don't agree with or aprove of observant Jews and
> >have a rather narrow conception of Jewish identity. There are times when
> >your answers sound condescending even though all of us on the list are
> >trying to use our equipment to the best of our abilities for our
individual
> >needs. Outside of that, don't be so sensitive about it.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:44 PM
> >Subject: Re: forms
> >
> >
> > > I'm just curious. Not "intense," whatever you mean by that. If you
can
> >put
> > > that differently, I'll be interested to understand your perception of
me
> >in
> > > this regard. But I don't get what you mean by "intense," here. In
fact,
> >I
> > > generally don't get what people mean to say when they use this
particular
> > > slangexpression, except by inference.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:30 PM
> > > Subject: Re: forms
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess you get drawn in because you are very intense about all of
this.
> >I
> > > just use jaws as a tool and save my intensity for other stuff.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: forms
> > >
> > >
> > > > Okay, fine. I learned from the same tapes, and I simply don't
remember
> > > that
> > > > at all. But I don't feel particularly deprived of a vital option by
not
> > > > knowing about it, as I've been perfectly satisfied with pressing
Enter
> >to
> > > > turn forms mode on, and leaving it either by completing a form and
> > > clicking
> > > > on the Send button, or pressing the virtual cursor key in order to
> >return
> > > to
> > > > normal operation if I feel like it. I'm sure it's fine, one way or
the
> > > > other. How do I get drawn into these things, I ask myself. Oh,
well.
> > > > th n important
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: forms
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Daniel, The way I learned about forms mode from the tutorial tapes
when
> >I
> > > > first trained on Jaws pressing enter turns forms mode on and if you
> >press
> > > > enter while in forms mode you turn it off. Very simple, no?
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:37 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: forms
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > No, Judith. Pressing Enter turns *on* forms mode when you're in
an
> >area
> > > > > with input field. It doesn't turn it *off,* so far as I've ever
> >known.
> > > I
> > > > > meant, when you press enter on a control that terminates your
forms
> > > > session
> > > > > (like the button that may say Send, for instance), that turns it
off.
> > > But
> > > > > it's not simply about pressing enter. See what I'm saying?
> > > > >
> > > > > Whew.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:23 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: forms
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Pressing the enter button turns off forms mode. The reason I was
> > > > wondering
> > > > > was that I was having a difficult time going from one edit field
to
> > > > another
> > > > > on a particular form and was so messed up that I didn't know where
I
> > > was.
> > > > > Now that I know of insert f1 I wont have to wonder anymore.
Judith
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:10 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: forms
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > But Judith, once Jaws says you're in forms mode, you're in forms
> >mode.
> > > > > > Until you do one of the things that turns it off! what's the
> >problem?
> > > > I
> > > > > > have a funny feeling that you think that using the tab key may
turn
> >it
> > > > off
> > > > > > or something? it doesn't. Was that the reason for wondering in
the
> > > > first
> > > > > > place?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel
> > > > > > jaw
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:50 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: forms
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not when you are tabbing in a larger form and just want to go
from
> >one
> > > > > edit
> > > > > > field to the other.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:46 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: forms
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To which I add, if Jaws doesn't *say* "forms mode," then
you're
> >not
> > > in
> > > > > > forms
> > > > > > > mode, isn't that so?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "David Weddle" <ddweddle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:34 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: forms
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As someone mentioned earlier today, and I don't mean to come
> >across
> > > > > > > cocky or snooty or anything, sometimes the easiest way to find
out
> > > > > > > something like that is to try it; if you can't enter stuff,
you're
> > > not
> > > > > > > in Forms Mode.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Take care...
> > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >On
> > > > > > > Behalf Of Judith Bron
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:11 AM
> > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: forms
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you know if you are still in forms mode? Are there any
> >signs
> > > > or
> > > > > > > commands you can hit to find out this information?
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 1:28 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: forms
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You know, for my money it's easier to just pop in and out of
> >forms
> > > > > > > > mode when I need to. It doesn't bother me especially, but it
> >might
> > > > > > > > others, and your solution may well benefit some of those
others.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Bruce Toews
> > > > > > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > > > > > > > http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
> > > > > > > > http://www.cornergas.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Chris Jenkins wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello Bruce.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Have you tried turning on forms mode use virtual labels?
> > > > > > > > > I have found that doing this can sometimes make a major
> > > difference
> > > > > > > > > in getting form fields to read properly.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On
> > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > > Of Bruce Toews
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:14 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: forms
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No. On a radio button, combo box or check box, hitting
space
> > > just
> > > > > > > selects
> > > > > > > > > or deselects without puttin you into forms mode. I don't
> >believe
> > > > > > > > > hitting space on an edit field will put you into forms
mode
> > > > either,
> > > > > > > > > but I'm not positive on this. Nope, I lie. In an edit
field,
> > > > hitting
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > space will put you into forms mode. As always, the best
way to
> > > > find
> > > > > > > > > something like this out is just to try it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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