Re: forms

  • From: "david the wild-thing" <d.h.whitehead@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:23:18 -0400

Hi Judith;
use the PC  to turn off forms mode.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: forms


Jean, Was the plus key used to turn on or off forms mode?  It wasn't quite
clear in your post.  Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: forms


> BTW... When I was taught Jaws I was taught to use the Plus key on the
> numeric key pad in num lock off mode to shut off the forms mode.
>
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: forms
>
>
> > I'm just curious.  Not "intense," whatever you mean by that.  If you can
> > put
> > that differently, I'll be interested to understand your perception of me
> > in
> > this regard.  But I don't get what you mean by "intense," here.  In
fact,
> > I
> > generally don't get what people mean to say when they use this
particular
> > slangexpression, except by inference.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: forms
> >
> >
> > I guess you get drawn in because you are very intense about all of this.
> > I
> > just use jaws as a tool and save my intensity for other stuff.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: forms
> >
> >
> >> Okay, fine.  I learned from the same tapes, and I simply don't remember
> > that
> >> at all.  But I don't feel particularly deprived of a vital option by
not
> >> knowing about it, as I've been perfectly satisfied with pressing Enter
to
> >> turn forms mode on, and leaving it either by completing a form and
> > clicking
> >> on the Send button, or pressing the virtual cursor key in order to
return
> > to
> >> normal operation if I feel like it.  I'm sure it's fine, one way or the
> >> other.  How do I get drawn into these things, I ask myself.  Oh, well.
> >> th n important
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:56 PM
> >> Subject: Re: forms
> >>
> >>
> >> Daniel, The way I learned about forms mode from the tutorial tapes when
I
> >> first trained on Jaws pressing enter turns forms mode on and if you
press
> >> enter while in forms mode you turn it off.  Very simple, no?
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:37 PM
> >> Subject: Re: forms
> >>
> >>
> >> > No, Judith.  Pressing Enter turns *on* forms mode when you're in an
> >> > area
> >> > with input field.  It doesn't turn it *off,* so far as I've ever
known.
> > I
> >> > meant, when you press enter on a control that terminates your forms
> >> session
> >> > (like the button that may say Send, for instance), that turns it off.
> > But
> >> > it's not simply about pressing enter.  See what I'm saying?
> >> >
> >> > Whew.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:23 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: forms
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Pressing the enter button turns off forms mode.  The reason I was
> >> wondering
> >> > was that I was having a difficult time going from one edit field to
> >> another
> >> > on a particular form and was so messed up that I didn't know where I
> > was.
> >> > Now that I know of insert f1 I wont have to wonder anymore.  Judith
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:10 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: forms
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > But Judith, once Jaws says you're in forms mode, you're in forms
> >> > > mode.
> >> > > Until you do one of the things that turns it off!  what's the
> >> > > problem?
> >> I
> >> > > have a funny feeling that you think that using the tab key may turn
> >> > > it
> >> off
> >> > > or something?  it doesn't.  Was that the reason for wondering in
the
> >> first
> >> > > place?
> >> > >
> >> > > Daniel
> >> > > jaw
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:50 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: forms
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Not when you are tabbing in a larger form and just want to go from
> >> > > one
> >> > edit
> >> > > field to the other.
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:46 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: forms
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > To which I add, if Jaws doesn't *say* "forms mode," then you're
not
> > in
> >> > > forms
> >> > > > mode, isn't that so?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "David Weddle" <ddweddle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:34 AM
> >> > > > Subject: RE: forms
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > As someone mentioned earlier today, and I don't mean to come
across
> >> > > > cocky or snooty or anything, sometimes the easiest way to find
out
> >> > > > something like that is to try it; if you can't enter stuff,
you're
> > not
> >> > > > in Forms Mode.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Take care...
> >> > > > Dave
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> >> > > > Behalf Of Judith Bron
> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:11 AM
> >> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: Re: forms
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > How do you know if you are still in forms mode?  Are there any
> >> > > > signs
> >> or
> >> > > > commands you can hit to find out this information?
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 1:28 AM
> >> > > > Subject: RE: forms
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > You know, for my money it's easier to just pop in and out of
> >> > > > > forms
> >> > > > > mode when I need to. It doesn't bother me especially, but it
> >> > > > > might
> >> > > > > others, and your solution may well benefit some of those
others.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Bruce
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Bruce Toews
> >> > > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> >> > > > > http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
> >> > > > > http://www.cornergas.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Chris Jenkins wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hello Bruce.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Have you tried turning on forms mode use virtual labels?
> >> > > > > > I have found that doing this can sometimes make a major
> > difference
> >> > > > > > in getting form fields to read properly.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On
> >> > > > Behalf
> >> > > > > > Of Bruce Toews
> >> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:14 PM
> >> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: forms
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > No. On a radio button, combo box or check box, hitting space
> > just
> >> > > > selects
> >> > > > > > or deselects without puttin you into forms mode. I don't
> >> > > > > > believe
> >> > > > > > hitting space on an edit field will put you into forms mode
> >> either,
> >> > > > > > but I'm not positive on this. Nope, I lie. In an edit field,
> >> hitting
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > space will put you into forms mode. As always, the best way
to
> >> find
> >> > > > > > something like this out is just to try it.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Bruce
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
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