Hi to Debbie and list: When I enter my username and password and press spacebar on the enter button to get into the jfw lite chat room, I get the error: iVocalize Internet Conference 3 Unable to connect. (10054) I know that audio-tips has since upgraded to the new Ivocalize, which is now tc4. I believe that jfw lite is using the audio-tips server if memory serves me right. Hal -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx