Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
- From: Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:13:40 +0000
The system is very secure due to being a government department and doesn’t let
us have access to task manager etc. I just restart every now and then but it’s
far from ideal. Blazie etc have been involved and nothing they can do about it,
although things seem to go wrong when there are network issues. My profile is a
roaming one on a server so not sure if that makes a difference.
Peter
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:07 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
When I've encountered problems like this on an XP pro system and I can predict
they will happen at least once a day, I take some precautions when there's a
lull in the action. I go into the Windows task manager and close down JAWS. In
my case, I also close down Outlook 2003 because it is such a memory hog and,
like JAWS, just keeps ratcheting up the memory use. I give them both a few
seconds rest, then bring them back up.
If the lull is even longer, I'll simply reboot. this gives everything a fresh
start and reduces the chances that the system will lock up when I can't afford
it to.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 11:02 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
Tried all that Dave. It’s all fine on my home PC with Windows 7 but at work
where we are running XP Pro sometimes I just lose it all together. Very
difficult with my job as I’m interviewing people most of the day, need the
computer, and because of the speed of the PC, network, security bits and pieces
your talking about five or six minutes at least to get logged back on again,
not to mention the work lost.
Peter
From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:57 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
Peter,
Wait 20 to 30 seconds after killing JAWS before attempting to load again. It
needs to "flush" from the system.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording
and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Holdstock
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 06:46
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
Yeh works for me too. The difficulty then comes when JAWS completely refuses
to come back up again.
peter
From: Hamid Hamraz
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:44 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
When Jaws freezes, i.e. Jaws key + F4 does not quit, I try the Jaws key +
windows + F4 to force Jaws to exit. That usually works for me.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yadiel Sotomayor
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
?When my computer freezes I always go to the task manager, processes and
press j for jfw and hit the aplication key. If I hear a sound I press down
arrow and hit enter twice to close jaws. Usually it works. However,
sometimes it doesn't. When that happens I usually wait for at least 5
minutes. I know it is anoying having a song playing while your computer is
locked up, but that usually means it is working and it is not completely
frozen. Once thanks for not waiting I crashed so bad my computer that I
needed to re instal windows.
Clean instal through and through. I lost everything because at the time I
did not backup at all. I learned my leason that's for sure.
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From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 1:01 AM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
> Actually I had several programs running at once--Firefox, Outlook
Express,
> MSWord, Powerpoint, My Computer/Folder Options. At one point I pressed
> Alt+Tab to changed the focus to another window and my Focus braille
> display and Jaws locked up; the music I had playing in Firefox continued
> playing. I tried closing each of my apps one by one with alt+f4, Windows
> Task Manager, End Program (alt+e), shut down--but none of those steps
> worked; the music kept playing and Jaws remained silent, the Focus stayed
> on the same message. Finally I pressed and held the power button till the
> music stopped and my computer shut off. When I pressed Power again to
> reboot, my computer started a vicious cycle of trying to Launch Windows,
> asking if I wanted to start in Safe or Normal Mode, then stopping and
> going back to the beginning of the bootup process, and the cycle just
kept
> repeating--till I held Power to stop the computer. With sighted
> assistance I located a message on the screen saying Windows couldn't
start
> successfully, and apologize for the inconvenience.
> The best solution is not having so many things running at once, and if my
> screenreader freezes or goes to sleep, and none of the graceful steps for
> shutting down works, call for sighted help. The helper would be able to
> close or get things running with a mouse or by looking at the screen for
> any dialogs that are invisible or inaudible to me. Obviously Jaws or
> Windows got tied up in knots due to the overload or multitude of running
> apps, and forcibly stopping the computer corrupted the version of Windows
> and made it inoperable. I could have saved the day by just being patient
> and getting help from whoever had the time.
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Douglas Richard Dexheimer
> Chief of Braille Productions
> Born-Again Productions
> The Friedman Place, Apt.308
> 5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
> Chicago, IL 60625
> 773-409-6163
> drichardd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:41 PM
> Subject: Re: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
>
>
>> You probably pressed that key during a critical part of a disk drive
>> write
>> operation. No way to really know and all I can suggest is that you
listen
>> to
>> your hard drive and make sure that it's not chattering when you press the
>> power button.
>>
>> Dave
>> Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
>> Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "Paul Kushinger" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 17:21
>> Subject: corrupted version of WindowsRe: message about a JAVA update
>>
>>
>> I too had to reinstall Windows on a new drive because my former edition
>> of
>> XP got corrupted, due to pressing and holding the power button on the
>> computer when my screenreader and braille display froze. When I (via a
>> sighted techie) installed a new version of XP on a new drive sent by my
>> brother, all my old files and programs were on the old drive (which had
>> the
>> former version of XP) but not the new one; a clean version of Windows
>> installed with the programs transferred from the old drive, but none of
>> the
>> old documents, emails, web browser favorites, Winamp bookmarks, etc. The
>> techie transferred all the files and programs from the old drive to his
>> external thumb drive, then from the thumb drive to this new drive, but
>> not
>> all of them got onto the new drive. Tonight he hopes to reconnect this
>> old
>> drive so I can find those old files and migrate them to the new drive.
>> Programs can't install from an old drive to a new; they have to be
>> reinstalled or redownloaded from scratch.
>> Why would pressing the power when my screenreader freezes, and nothing
>> else
>> I try works, corrupt Windows so it can't reboot anymore?
>>
>> Douglas Richard Dexheimer
>> Chief of Braille Productions
>> Born-Again Productions
>> The Friedman Place, Apt.308
>> 5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
>> Chicago, IL 60625
>> 773-409-6163
>> drichardd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:00 AM
>> Subject: message about a JAVA update
>>
>>
>>> Hello Cy and Friends,
>>> Before I reinstalled Windows due to a corrupted version of XP, and
>>> completely started over with a completely clean System's Drive, I had
>>> this
>>> terrible problem all the time, even a couple times a day, it was so
>>> terribly annoying.
>>>
>>> I must assume then, it is because some "Cookie" was deleted when the new
>>> install occurred.
>>>
>>> I bet you are receiving this message because of some "Cookie" that got
>>> onto your system.
>>>
>>> If you can find the "Cookie" that brings this message into your system,
>>> and delete it, I am sure your problem will go away!
>>>
>>> With Best Regards,
>>> Alan
>>> Miami, Florida
>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>
>>>
>>
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