The best note I've heard in a long time! I wonder why freedom doesn't get it? MSN: & EMAIL: karim.lakhani@xxxxxxx Visit The Ice Zone At: HTTP://members.shaw.ca/theicezone $$$$ "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty. " *Sir Winston Churchill -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry Campbell Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 5:36 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: constant harping about new versions Dean: Yes I agree with you to a point but when people from Freedom promise release dates and enhancements and do not deliver it promotes = speculation. For example at the 2002 ACB convension I was told by Eric D that version = 5 would have Citrix support but when it came out of course we know it did = not. They instead spent a large variety of time working on this sound scheme garbage. If we as programmers and data base entry persons are to = continue to function in the world we need real meat and potatos fixes not what freedom has been producing lately. Not a cerman but a thought -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 8:48 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: constant harping about new versions I have never understood the constant prattle about new versions. = Freedom=20 Scientific has demonstrated that when they actually have something, = whether=20 it be a public beta or a release, they know how to announce it. They = know=20 how to market! Dave has now announced, with some perception of certainty, that version = 6=20 is coming out in October. Dave, with what authority do you make this=20 pronouncement? Also, how does it matter? Until it's out, we don't have = it. When it's out, we do. The endless questions and rumors don't alter = the release in any way. Based on history, we know the next version will = fix some problems, add some features, and create some new problems. I=20 appreciate that we have no control over people who join the list and = then=20 ask about new versions, but it would be an enhancement to the quality of = the list of existing members refrained from discussing useless = conjecture=20 until it turns from conjecture to certainty. Dean -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or = the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact = the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx