Re: completely uninstalling jaws

  • From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:28:49 -0700

I liked dos too. but all the people who can see just use the mouse and they 
don't like using the key board and they even call it labor intensive. So we 
will have to adapt.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws


> dos could have made things just as easy and more stable had it been 
> persued.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
>
>
> Bruce, you'll make me pine for the good ol' simple days *smile*.  Although
> the world's got a bit more complex, it's that complexity that has brought 
> a
> world of opportunity for us devs to integrate apps together, making things
> easier for the user to perform tasks.
>
> So, it's swings and roundabouts.  By having a more complex world, we can
> create great applications packed full of useful things, and make sure you
> can access their functionality from the point at which you would want to.
> On the other hand, it makes deployment and uninstallation that bit 
> trickier,
> as you've not only got to delete the files, but also undo all the bits of
> integration that are usually kept in the registry.  If the automatic
> uninstallation process works as it should, it's great, if it doesn't, 
> well,
> that's when we get problems.
>
> Do I really want to go back?  Nah,  Whilst DOS was simple, especially
> compared to programming Windows apps, Windows makes things easier for the
> user, and as a specialist in Human Computer Interaction, that's something 
> I
> like *smile*.
>
> Will Pearson
>
> Microsoft MVP (Visual Developer/VC++)
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> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
>
>
>> No doubt about it. It's not at all like the old Dos days when you could
>> just delete the files and have done with it.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> -- 
>> Bruce Toews
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>> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Will Pearson wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Bruce,
>> >
>> > I think you're right, and with the complexity of modern software, I
> think
>> > you could say the same about pretty much all software packages about at
> the
>> > moment.
>> >
>> > Will Pearson
>> >
>> > microsoft MVP (Visual Developer/VC++)
>> > For more information about the MVP Program, go to:
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Bruce Toews" <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 2:54 AM
>> > Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
>> >
>> >
>> >> I believe that what everyone's trying to tell you without having to
> admit
>> >> it is that we really don't know how to completely uninstall JAWS.
>> >>
>> >> Bruce
>> >>
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>> >> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, John Miller wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I agree, when I sell or give away computers, I always format the hard
>> > drive
>> >>> first. In fact, I have one for sale now and it's all freshly set,
>> > nothing
>> >>> but windows on it right now.
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Cy" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 8:39 PM
>> >>> Subject: RE: completely uninstalling jaws
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Wil,
>> >>>> I would have to agree with this assessment. Unless you have taken 
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> time and trouble to run a piece of software which goes all through
> your
>> >>>> hard drive and writes high values and then makes a second pass
> writing
>> >>>> low values to all supposidly unused areas of the drive several 
>> >>>> brands
>> > of
>> >>>> software can "recover" the "accidently" deleted items from your
> drive.
>> >>>> I would format the drive and then install whatever software you
> wanted
>> >>>> the new person to have.
>> >>>> Cy, the Ancient One...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> >>>> Behalf Of Wil James
>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 7:07 PM
>> >>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> Subject: RE: completely uninstalling jaws
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If the system is being given away to a friend, school, church, or
>> >>>> whoever is not under your roof, reformatting is the best solution.
>> > There
>> >>>> is software out there that can uncover supposedly deleted files
> you've
>> >>>> deleted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> >>>> Behalf Of Bruce Toews
>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:52 PM
>> >>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well, the most foolproof way would be to reformat. I'm not trying to
>> >>>> sound cute, but if totality is what you're after that just might be
>> > your
>> >>>> best bet.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bruce
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
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>> >>>> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, chevelle wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I know. That's why I wrote to the list. How does one go about
>> >>>>> completely removing all references to jaww from the hard drive.
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 6:44 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Uninstallation of jaws does not remove the freedom scientific keys
>> >>>>>> from the registry and depending on what os you are running, it may
>> >>>>>> not remove the video hooks.  Uninstalling jaws, does also not
> remove
>> >>>>>> authorization.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>> From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:08 PM
>> >>>>>> Subject: completely uninstalling jaws
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi, after you uninstall jaws from the add/remove or from the tools
>> >>>>>> options of jaws. I think someone on this list said to completely
>> >>>>>> remove Jaws you have to remove something from the registery. Is
> that
>> >>>>>> right? If so what do you remove from the registery to completely
>> >>>>>> remove jaws from the hard drive.
>> >>>>>> Thanks.
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