Re: checking headers and footers
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:30:36 -0800
I'm laughing. Never mind to the "too much info" thing. I'm not one of the
people who's inclined to make that complaint. I'm interested to learn, or
at least get a look at, anything unless it's entirely beyond the range of my
ability to understand, given my existing knowledge. And that wasn't. And I
may someday have need to know it and refer to it. Sorry to be so earnest,
but just letting you know that was fine. Good luck gaining more comfort
with your specific header concerns.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: checking headers and footers
Hi Yardbird
Yeah, I also think right justification on its own would look stupid, but
I need to use left and right justification on the same line in a
one-line header.
Sorry if I gave you too much info. LOL.
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: checking headers and footers
> Hi. This is interesting, and I'll keep it on file. But I personally
> tend
> to use very simple headers, so I don't anticipate doing anything so
> complicated. Also, when I mentioned right tabbing to push text toward
> the
> right, I was not proposing this as a substitute for right alignment.
> For
> instance, in a business letter, if I wish to have a block of text with
> my
> return address, phone number an email appear in the upper right of the
> page
> (not talking about headers, here), then intend to drop a couple of
> lines,
> center the date, then after another blank line left align and type the
> addressee's address against the left margin (this is just a
> conventional
> sort of thing I'm describing), I use my tab method very carefully, and
> easily ensure that each line is where it ought to be. I have no
> desire to
> actually right align something like that so that its right side is
> flush
> against the right margin and the beginnings of the lines are
> staggered.
> That would look pretty goofy, and no one would do that.
>
> Anyway, I see you're privy to some advice that's far more
> sophisticated than
> my usual tricks, and I'm glad you've got access to such information.
> Thanks
> for sharing.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: checking headers and footers
>
>
> Hi Yardbird
>
> Thanks. That's how I do it. But the reason I want to know alignment,
> is that I sometimes want to know how it lines up against the text in
> the
> document. Hey, I don't need to know that, I just want to. And using
> tabs to get the part of the header over to the right margin isn't
> quite
> exact. It's not the same as honest right justification. It's better
> to
> use breaking and non-breaking spaces. But when I use those and want
> to
> verify where the text is on the line, I can't tell how it really
> looks.
>
> Here is some advice that works very nicely to get cleaner alignment in
> headers and footers. I got the below advice from a Word list I'm on.
>
> Realize that if you hit Ctrl + Shift + spacebar, it creates a hard
> space. In
> your minds eye, visualize it as a tiny circle between words that holds
> them
> together. This is also how the keystroke is represented to the sighted
> if
> they turn on their markers.
>
> Anyway...if you add that marker between words, it keeps them together
> so
> they stick together with that one space between them, as they should
> when
> viewed normally. However, the trick is that if you add full
> justification to
> that line, and then end that line with a shift + enter for a short
> return,
> it causes the line to stretch across the length of your page to fully
> fit
> across from the left to right margin. Any words that are held together
> with
> a hard space look normal, but what happens is that a regular space
> made
> by
> just hitting the space bar ends up getting stretched very far. Even
> across
> the length of a page, if necessary.
>
> The end result is that, with a few keystrokes, you can guarantee that
> whatever you need to type is properly aligned in whatever way you
> want.
>
> Here's a sample.
>
> Say you're starting a new line at the left margin and you'd like your
> first
> and last name lined up along the left and say your city and state
> lined
> up
> along the right...say for a resume. Here's the keystroke you'd do...
>
> Hit Ctrl + J to set full justification for this line. Type your first
> name
> and hit a hard space with Ctrl + Shift + spacebar, then type your last
> name.
> Now hit a regular space with the spacebar alone. Now type your city,
> add
> another hard space to hold it to the state, by again hitting ctrl +
> shift +
> spacebar and type your state.
>
> Now here comes a few tricks. After the last word in the line, hit Ctrl
> +
> Enter to add a soft line break, that causes the regular space to
> stretch
> and
> force the city and state to go to the far right alignment.
>
> Now granted, you will end up with an extra return on the next line.
> That's
> usually not a problem, but if you wished it wasn't taking up those
> extra
> 12
> points or whatever for the size of the font you have, you can easily
> knock
> that puppy down to 1pt that will take up no space that anyone will
> notice.
> After you hit that soft return with ctrl + Enter...you'll be down on
> the
> next line just to the left of the last paragraph marker. You need it
> there
> to cause the previous line to remain justified. But you can hold down
> Shift
> and hit the right arrow key once to select that para marker. Then you
> can
> hit Ctrl + Shift + < (the less than sign) and, while holding the ctrl
> +
> shift...tap on the less than sign once for every two point sizes your
> font
> is. In other words, if you have a 12 pt font, tap it 6 times. That'll
> bring
> it down to about 1pt. Although you can actually just hit it many times
> because if you hit it more times than necessary, it doesn't matter
> cos'
> it'll
> stop changing the size when it hits 1pt.
>
> This last step with the para marker isn't always necessary if you
> don't
> care
> about an extra line of space after your justification line, but it
> cleans up
> the excess nicely.
>
> Now, if you've read this far and if you try this, you'll find Jaws
> doesn't tell you the status of those spaces, and you can't verify
> placement of the text on the line with something like alt plus delete.
> At least last time I did this, I had to again just go on faith. Now,
> aren't you sorry we got into this?
>
> Jean
>
>
>
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