Re: "bullet"
- From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:43:43 -0400
So, my question is:
How did anyone ever figure the end user would prefer to have this =
interference from their word processor?
We are presently having a very difficult time getting people to move to =
MS-Word from WordPerfect because of these autoformatting issues and the =
way in which Word handles or rather doesn't handle tables.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
DLeavens@xxxxxxx
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.=20
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From: "Debbie Kessler" <jessesgirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: "bullet"
> Hi Judith;
> If you are editing a document sent to you from someone else, you won't =
necessarily know what their settings were in their Word application. You =
can turn off automatic bulleted and automatic numbered lists under auto =
format which will help you. Remember that the "space" after any text =
contains the formatting of that previous text. For example: if I have a =
title that is bolded, underlined, and size 20 font Somewhere in my =
document. Then I have several blank lines and or spaces. My lower text =
is not bolded, underlined, and is a 14 size font. I place my cursor at =
the beginning of the lower text and backspace all the way back to the =
title. Hope you are following me. Now, I want to come down one line, so =
I press the "ENTER key and move my text to the next line. I have =
succeeded in getting rid of any extra spaces and lines; but any text I =
type at this point will have the bold, underline, and font size of 20 in =
that text. Because blind people move their cursor around to hear what is =
> happening, they face this problem more than sighted persons. I will =
often backspace back to and delete a period of a previous sentence, just =
to get rid of any extra spaces or lines. I then just put the period back =
in. But, if that previous line had different formatting than any text I =
might type at this point will have picked up on that previous =
formatting. In the example I gave above, I would then turn off the bold, =
underline, and change the font size to my desired size. You know, with =
"ctrl + B" and "ctrl + U" before typing any additional text. So, to =
answer your question as to how a bullet or number gets there. If you =
didn't inadvertently put one there then I would ask if you are looking =
at a document prepared by someone else. There is a shortcut key to turn =
on bullets of which I cannot recall at the moment. But, you would =
normally have to make an effort to bullet something and so you would =
definitely know about it.=20
> If you are up and down arrowing so that jaws reads the line and you =
hear that there is a number or bullet that was put in from the auto =
format, you will not hear it by moving the cursor over it with your left =
and right arrows. This has something to do with how the auto format is =
set up and jaws cannot see this number or bullet. If turning off auto =
format is not an option, when you enter to add another line of text, =
check by having jaws read line to make sure there are no new numbers or =
bullets. If you hear one you do not want, press backspace and read your =
line again with the read line keystroke. If you backspace all the way =
back to the previous line, and press enter again, you will pick up on =
the previous formatting again, hence putting that number or bullet back =
in.=20
> Good checking keys are: jaws read line, jaws read attributes, and jaws =
read line and column of carrot.=20
> If turning off auto formatting is not an issue, then do that because =
it will save you from having to pay for headache medication.=20
> If this is not clear, which I fear, please let me know.
> Debbie & Jesse
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> From: Judith Bron=20
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> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:03 AM
> Subject: "bullet"
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> On one of my manuscripts the word "bullet" has shown up before one =
of my subsections. I always took this to mean another form of a link =
but this is not a link. Is there a way to get rid of this word? Does =
it mean anything? Thanks, Judith
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