HI: When you ran adware, did you do a full system scan or did you go with the default? The full system scan will scan the memory as well. Some spyware will stay in memory while you remove it from the drive, and then reinstall itself back on to the drive. So you need something that will scan your memory at the sametime. Good luck! Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Faill To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: Re: advice on elite bar malware blade. yes i have tried this and no luck. i have also tried a program which i had my wife use in windows safe mode which is meant to remove all this malware but again no luck. am a little concerned that no matter what i try to use it doesn't seem to work. i have tried macafee, add aware, spyware doctor and none work. spyware doctor recognises it but when i delete it and reboot there it is again. stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: Blade To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: Re: advice on elite bar malware Hello Stephen! Have you tried to remove that program using Add/Remove programs under your control panel? Regards, Blade ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Faill To: Jaws mailing list ; blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: advice on elite bar malware hello list. does anyone have any information on or how to remove this piece of annoying software? have tried a few steps but none of which have worked so far. appreciate any help. stephen