Re: address book interferes with inbox
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:25:10 -0800
Londa,
Thanks. It's been such a long time-- I mean many years-- since I set up my
Outlook Express and configured it so that only the folder tree list and the
messages panes are onscreen that I forgot entirely that you can also set it up
so that the "contacts list," which isn't the same as saying "the Address Book,"
is also on screen to be included in the route you can traverse by pressing the
tab key. I don't even remember why I opted not to have that stuff onscreen,
preferring to keep it simple. But as I say, it was long ago, and "Address
Book" was not the nomenclature used. This discrepancy exacerbated my
forgetting.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Londa Peterson
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: address book interferes with inbox
If you go to the view menu and press enter on layout, you will find a checkbox
that says "contacts". If you check this box, you can tab between the folder
tree, the message list and the address list. If you uncheck this box, then you
will only have the folder tree and the message list unless you have the preview
Paine or something else turned on. Hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Yardbird
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:32 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox
Dear Adrian,
Well, nothing of the sort is possible for me, no matter what I do. With the
Address Book open, tabbing won't get you out of it nor get you into it if
you're elsewhere. And if it isn't open, tabbing around the inbox won't get you
there, either. Maybe you're accustomed to using the Inbox screen differently
from me; maybe you arrow up to the folders Outlook Express or Local Folders and
play around from those points, but I don't go there, if you know what I'm
describing. I don't go any higher up on the left hand pane than the main
folder Inbox,, from which I can tab to the list view of messages and back again
(you don't have to bother with the shift key just to return to the tree view),
or arrow it open and arrow up and down its subfolders I've created to hold some
mail, or further down to the Sent Items, Deleted Items or Drafts folders.
anyway, just trying to give you a picture of how I use Inbox, and in this
usage can't use tab or shift tab to either launch Address Book or cycle in and
out of it when it's open. I am at a complete loss what you might be
describing, which certainly isn't my experience of Outlook Express.
but let's call it moot now, okay? Okay.
thread.
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox
Yardbird,
I don't want to torture fellow listers with this thread, so this will be my
last word on it. Yes, you alt-tab between an open message and the rest of OE.
However, when a message isn't open, it happens that you can tab or shift-tab
into the address book in the manner I previously described. I don't like to do
it that way, preferring the control-shift-b shortcut to avoid confusion.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yardbird
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox
Adrian,
I know that, Adrian. I mean, that alt tab takes you our into another open
app. But, you know, it also enables you to cycle around within what you're
doing only in OE, as I've discovered. For instance, if while I'm writing this
reply in an open message area, and hear an incoming mail sound and wish to see
what sort of email just arrived, I can simply alt tab (yes, that's what I said)
and, even if I have to go through some intervening visits to other open apps if
they come up first, I'll also come to the Outlook Express Inbox, pristine as
before, and then I can examine my incoming email and see what it was that I
just received. I can even open the message and read it and, if I wish, leave
it open and alt tab back to the reply I'm writing to you at this moment.
Try it. That is what I was referring to.
Finally, Adrian, I don't know what program you're suing, but in the way I
have Outlook Express set up, to display the Inbox files list view on the right
side and the Outlook Express folders tree view on the left (this is what
displays when you set OE up to open in the Inbox, a very standard
configuration, perhaps the default), tabbing and shift tabbing only take you
back and forth between the files list view with the messages in it and the
folders tree view in the other pane of the window. That's it. If the Address
book is opened, it displays atop the main OE screen. It isn't part of it.
Also, I just alt tabbed around out of this message in progress to the main
Inbox screen again, launched the Address Book with my usual hotkey Control
Shift B as in boy, and then experimented with pressing tab and shift tab to see
if they did something different from what I'm accustomed to their doing. but
no, all you can do in the address book with the tab key and shift tab is to go
back and forth between that initial edit field where you may type the name of
someone whose address you'd like to be taken to, or tab into the full list of
names and addresses. Back and forth. That's all tab and shift tab do within
the address book. They don't put you into any part of Outlook Express,
including the Inbox, and bring you back again to the Address Book.
If I've misunderstood your description, please explain.
Im box hat shf----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: aaddress book interferes with inbox
It is possible to tab and shift-tab, not alt-tab, into the address book.
For example, a single shift-tab from the folders list does it. Alt-tab takes
you into another application.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yardbird
Hi Donna,
don't you mean alt -space bar_ x, not the control key? Also, what you
can maximize with this command isn't "the Inbox," or the entire Outlook Express
interface on your screen, but just one thing-- an open Outlook Express message.
When you come upon the listing of a message in your Inbox list view, and click
it open, it generally opens in a smallish window that leaves a lot of other
screen elements of the Outlook Express interface showing around it. When you
maximize that open message, it expands to fill all the space in the display
except for the Outlook Express menu line at the top of the screen, and the
status line at the bottom. This helps to allow Jaws to read the message
accurately, and for you to perform editing and writing functions accurately in
a reply.
But in any case, the Address book shouldn't just pop up out of nowhere.
It's not always sitting there as part of the Outlook Express interface. To
make it appear, you have to call it up either from the OE menu or with the
hotkey command Control shift B.
So, what this sounds like is that maybe the Address Book is popping up on
its own, mysteriously, and grabbing Jaws's focus. Now, here's something I
wouldn't have thought of: Maybe this person launches the Address Book and,
after doing so, never closes it by pressing Escape, but just cycles back into
the main Outlook Express screen (not just the Inbox, but any feature of Outlook
Express) using Alt Tab? And somehow the Address Book reappears by some
accident, now and then? I don't know, that's still mysterious to me.
Anyway, hope it was of some help to explain the window maximizing thing.
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