one thing that can be attempted is to maximize the bar. try these two things to see if they help. one, press space bar and then x while on the address bar that is after pressing alt+d. the second is to use ctrl with the plus key on the number pad after pressing alt+d. one of those may be what is needed. David Poehlman poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx