Re: Word maximize and zoom (was Re: Jaws 7.10 not speaking the whole word)

  • From: "Kelly Hill" <khill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:26:38 -0700

Yardbird,
The maximize I am talking about is the maximize symbol that appears on the title bar and in the system menu once Word or any other program is running.
Perhaps the item in the view menu of Microsoft Explorer to which you refer is the option for full screen. That would almost certainly expand the webpage portion to push the menu bar off of the screen.


The zoom feature in the view menu of Word controls how the document looks on screen and to my knowledge has no affect on how your document will print.
If you think Zoom has no affect, try setting it to 200% and reading a document.


I'm still curious why this person's Jaws was only reading partial words. Perhaps the font was really huge.


Kelly
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:04 PM
Subject: Word maximize and zoom (was Re: Jaws 7.10 not speaking the whole word)



I've heard this advice about the zoom setting so often, and maximization as
well, that I would like to offer my own experience with Jaws, over several
versions, on several computers, and with several editions of Word.


First of all, maximization. If you go into the properties for the Start
Menu icon or the hotkey combination you use to launch Word, you'll see
among the items a choice of having it run normal or maximized. And normal
really means normal. Word running this way fills the screen, from top to
bottom and from left to right. I've never tried setting it to the Maximized
option and observed what happens then (I'm partially sighted so can actually
observe this sort of thing), but I know from the one time I set Internet
Explorer to run maximized, using the View menu option, it had the
unfortunate effect of pushing the menu bar off the screen to make room for
even more of the main window, which wasn't necessary for any practical
reason and of course made it impossible to use IE's menu commands. Not very
practical. And it didn't have any effect on Jaws, at all. Good or bad. As
I say, I don't know what running maxed would do to Word, but I've never run
it that way, and so far as I know, it's not necessary. Normal is just fine.
Normal is normal. Honestly, normal doesn't mean Word is displaying in a
reduced-sized window that's confusing jaws by letting it see things around
the Word document. That isn't what normal does. Normal fills the screen.
I have no idea where this idea about maximizing Word comes from. Maybe it's
extrapolated from other applications, which may open smaller than full size
and need to be expanded fully for the sake of Jaws. I don't know.


And as for the Zoom to 75 per cent thing, that, too, makes no sense to me.
I just looked at my Word View menu in the Zoom option,, and it's set to 100
per cent as it always has been for me. This, too, is simply normal. I think
it would take an FS tech person to explain to me how this recommendation
ever came to be given to Jaws users.


As I say, these are my own experiences, as a seasoned Jaws user with Word.
Just for comparison.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Hill" <khill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 7.10 not speaking the whole word



If your Word window is maximized, zoom is set to 75% and you are in normal
view,
you have no tool bars other than standard and formatting displayed and you
have set all your Windows XP settings to match the Jaws help topic "Windows
XP and Jaws," I'll be very interested to know what the problem is when you
find out.



Kelly Hill

And thi8s only happens in Word?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Stansifer" <larrys@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: Jaws 7.10 not speaking the whole word



Hi Folks,

I am using JFW 7.10, Windows-XP and Microsoft office XP-pro.

When creating or editing a document in word Jaws doesn't always speak the
entire word. Their doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to what part of
the word Jaws ignores or how often it does it.
Screen is refreshed, all ms-word are set to FS recommended, both
application and document windows are maximized and all of my Windows-XP
settings are correct.

This isn't a critical flaw but is certainly a pain in the 32nd Vertebrae.
Having already ruled out sledge hammer 1.0 I am open to any other
suggestions.


Regards

Larry Stansifer

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