RE: Windows ME, CE, and NT
- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:55:46 -0700
Hi,
ME = so-called Millennium Edition, but popularly known as Mistaken Edition
(which I agree).
CE: supposedly Consumer Electronics, but with the recent trends, it is
stepping away from that objective.
NT: Supposedly New Technology, but we'll see how long that would be true
(perhaps not anymore).
My research interests mostly deal with CE kernel (nk.exe) and a version of
JAWS that runs on it; unless I (and others) see a mainstream version of JAWS
for Windows Mobile being released, I will not recommend the hardware config
which this particular JAWS runs on it. It is better to diversify and not
stick to only one solution, which is the reason why I've wrote that blog
article in the first place:
http://joslee22590.blogspot.com/2010/08/opinion-possibility-of-jaws-for-wind
ows.html
The content of my blog is something that I believe is relevant on other
lists (not here though, although the architecture would be relevant here).
One more thing: Just because a company is bad does not mean the product
could be worse. We've seen this case before - a company regaining reputation
thanks to user communication and improvements on their product and
commitment for diversification. However, there is a one huge drawback for
being famous: one needs to keep in mind that others are quickly catching up
to them, as in the case of changing views on embedded architecture and
operating system selections away from big name brands, as it is happening
right now (even on this list). I expect to see yet another heated debate by
December of this year... But until then, I'll just write messages that does
benefit not only current users, but future users as well and continue to
learn programming...
Cheers,
Joseph S. Lee
University of California, Riverside
P.S. "It is better for new users to learn useful tricks than this user
getting a headache about something he or she has no clue on the subject at
hand."
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:29 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Windows ME, CE, and NT
Yes, and the letters in "NT" meant "Nice Try" or "Not Tested", if any of us
will admit to knowing those versions.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:37
Subject: Re: [Follow] Freedom Scientific introduces bugs intentionally!
Dave:
And do not forget, that the two letters in Windows M E came to be known as
"mangled Edition", in the same way that the two letters in windows C E,
became known as "Crippled Edition".
Sincerely:
Dave durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Follow] Freedom Scientific introduces bugs intentionally!
> Well, not to digress even more off topic, but I have to suggest that
> Microsoft's launch of Windows 7 was driven less by user complaints of
Vista
> than by the competition being offered by Apple. If Microsoft had a
> non-competitive market, we'd still be stuck with Windows ME.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Armond" <armond1980@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 21:26
> Subject: [Follow] Freedom Scientific introduces bugs intentionally!
>
>
> Well, guys, whether or not JAWS has been or is tremendously helpful to the
> visually impaired is simply beyond the point. No one can or should deny
the
> fact that JAWS has been helping thousands of users in a variety of
context.
> However, that doesn't mean the follies of its developers should be
ignored.
> That would be like, say, having ignored Windows Vista's multitudinous
> problems and headaches simply because Microsoft has been developing
> different permutations of Windows for so long. On the other hand, what we
> now call a positive experience, or simply a better experience, with
Windows
> 7 is the direct consequence of user complaints and taking into account
those
> glitches. Now who can deny the usefulness of Windows? On a similar topic,
> isn't iPhone a revolutionary product with its full-fledged screen reader,
> helping many visually impaired people all over the world with its
cornucopia
> of apps and functions? But this doesn't prevent users from complaining
about
> rather serious antenna issues with the 4th generation of iPhones.
> Likewise, when we simply state that Freedom Scientific is moving in the
> wrong direction with its approach toward beta testing and bug
handling--and
> I don't want to mention the issue of the frequency of major upgrades which
> unnecessarily kill SMA licenses, it doesn't mean that we excoriate the
whole
> history of JAWS from the HJ days forward. Rather, it's just meant to keep
> both the user community and, hopefully, the developers aware of the issues
> which have beleagured JAWS. As for this particular bug, why should people
> buy extra language packs when Unicode support in combination with a TTS
> engine can do the job? And this has been the case for some years and is
> still the case with other screen readers which support Unicode. And, last
> but not least, this has nothing to do with international sanctions against
a
> particular country; rather, it's a totally technical issue as, say, Arab
> countries aren't under any particular sanctions whatsoever. Imagine having
> to purchase JAWS language packs from certain dealers in order to be able
to
> read and write in Russian, Greek, and Polish.
>
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