Dan, see my earlier post on this subject. there are are all kinds of
keystrokes built into these jaws scripts. you can find the elapsed
time of the current track, announce the time length of the track,
remaining time of the track, etc.
Relax, man. It's really ok.
At 09:38 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote:
Oh my God, that's a lot of hassle. I'm not a recording engineer. I don't care about the time. I just care where I am in a long podcast or something. In fact, how on eartham I supposed to find out the elapsed time at any given point at which I feel like placing a marker? Why aren't these just place markers, like the index tones in an NlS audiotape (an American service for the blind provided by the Library of Congress)?
Oh, wow. This is complicated. Lirra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Wong" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws
hi Yardbird, yes, you just press "M" during the file is playing and you need to key-in the time on the edit box. to get the time, pause the playback by pressing "C" then press CTRL+J to get the time and key-in at the edit box.
Regards, Allan Wong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 09:45 Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws
you mean, you just press M while a file is playing? You don't first open a mmenu, or press a control key combo in volving M? That sounds odd. enuy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Wong" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: Winamp and Jaws
hi Yardbird, the keystroke are:
M = set time marker to the current track alt+shift+M = Jump to the time marker in the current track ctrl+shift+M = remove the time marker from the currently playing track
hth, Allan Wong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 08:45 Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws
Gary,
Thanks. I installed it a couple of hours ago and figured that out when that dialogue came up during the install. Because it described the classic skin as having something to do with accessibility.
Again, thanks for thinking to say that.
By the way, do you remember that keystroke for placing a time marker in a file that's playing, and for returning to it?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws
Yardbird,
Just be sure when installing Winamp to uncheck Modern Skin Support so that Winamp will use the Classic interface that works with JAWS.
Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws
> Chris, > Thanks. I read your similar comments earlier, but I got confused about > which versions of Winamp and which versions of jaws were being talked > about. > I think I just read the message too fast. And I do understand what you > say > about the Winamp updates having been about functional program changes and > not changes to the the interface. Would that more software developers > would > make it so easy for us! > > okay. Winamp will be a project for me to get into now. Thanks for all > the > help and the patient explanation. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:15 PM > Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws > > > i Dan > > As I said previously, all versions of JAWS, from 4.51 on to 7.10 have > full support for Winamp, including the current version, 5.31. and > until something drasticly changes with the interface, I'm going on > the assumption that all future versions will work. Remember, when a > new version of Winamp is released, they usually only make changes > that affect the performance of the program from the inside, and they > usually leave the interface we use for screenreaders alone. So you > can be confident that when you download a new version, it will just > work as it's supposed to. Also, you should, in theory, be able to > install a new version of Winamp right over the top of your existing > version. In fact, if you uninstall it, any changes you make will > probably be lost, so Nullsoft/AOL have actually, made the upgrade > path very easy. So, go download that new version, play with it and > hit insert plus h and get to know those key commands. > > Good luck! > > At 03:59 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote: >>Chris, >>Thanks for the link. Just to clarify, is the current version that I'd be >>downloading one of those for which Jaws scripts do exist? That wasn't >>clear >>to me. I guess because I don't know the release number of the current >>version of Winamp. If it matters, I'm using Jaws 7.0. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:54 PM >>Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws >> >> >>Yes that's right Dan. JAWS has support for Winamp built in if you're >>using version 4.51 and up to 7.10. If you get stuck, hit insert plus >>h, and a list of key commands will come up. pressing enter on the >>name of the command, performs that action I.E. If you press enter >>onplay, the file will start playing. press enter on stop, the file will >>stop. >> >>You should be able to get the most recent version from >> >>http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp531_full.exe >> >>That's a direct link to download the file. >> >>Hope that helps. >> >>At 03:44 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote: >> >Thanks, Chris. I tried Winamp once before, but found it confusing to >> >learn >> >because of the non-standard interface. Maybe I'll download the latest >> >version and try to master it, at least for my simple needs of streaming >> >(I >> >know, I can't use the markers there) and playing podcasts. >> > >> >Could you paste in the best link for downloading Winamp again? Also, >> >from >> >what you said earlier, it sounded as if, although there *are* some old >> >Jaws >> >scripts on the JFW Lite programs page (I know they can't have been >> >updated, >> >of course), it sounds as if they aren't really necessary just to use the >> >basic functions. Am I right? It's okay just to download the current >> >version and learn to use it, as is? >> > >> >thanks. >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:06 PM >> >Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws >> > >> > >> >Hi Dan >> >Your questions, and then my answers... >> > >> > can you set such a marker, then completely >> > >stop (not pause) play, and have the marker still there when you start >> > >playing the file again? >> > >> >Yes you can, it's very easy, just set your time marker at a specific >> >point and it'll stay there til you remove it with another keystroke. >> >You can have as many time markers in a file as you need to, and they >> >can even be exported to send to a friend who may have the same files. >> > >> > >> > >> > > And what if you exit the program? Will the markers >> > >still be there if you can play the same file? >> > >> >Yup, if you close the program an open it up and then play the file >> >again, the time markers will still be there. They stay til you >> >remove them yourself. >> > >> > >> > >> > > And are we talking about a >> > >streaming file (which I assume you can't modify like this) or an .mp3, >> > >like >> > >a podcast? >> > >It'd be more like a podcast, because a stream is downloaded as it >> > >plays, so it would make no sense since you can't go back to a >> > >specific point in a streaming file. >> >and don't worry, your questions were good, they made perfect sense. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >----- Original Message ----- >> > >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:11 AM >> > >Subject: Re: Winamp and Jaws >> > > >> > > >> > >Hi. Actually, the most recent release is version 5.31. it can be >> > >gotten >> > >from >> > > >> > > >> > >http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp531_full.exe >> > > >> > >Here's the scoop about Winamp and JAWS. To date, all of the versions >> > >in the 5.x series work just fine, accept for the newer versions of >> > >the media library. But that may change in the future. For now, you >> > >can download some scripts from the jfw lite home page at >> > >http://jfwlite.com/programs that wwill help. >> > > >> > >But don't worry about upgrading. 9 times out of 10, the new version >> > >hasn't had any significant changes to the actual look or interface, >> > >all the changes usually happen inside the actual program, so there's >> > >no need to worry. >> > > >> > > >> > >At 03:59 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote: >> > > >hi, >> > > > >> > > >you can download winamp from here: >> > > >http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp524_full.exe >> > > > >> > > >this is the latest release of winamp and its work fine with jaws >> > > >7.10. >> > > > >> > > >Regards, >> > > >Allan Wong >> > > >----- Original Message ----- >> > > >From: "Larry Stansifer" <larrys@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 04:33 >> > > >Subject: Winamp and Jaws >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >Hi Folks, >> > > >I am in a bind for an mp-3 player and I was told that "Winamp" would >> > > >fill >> > > >my needs quite nicely. >> > > >The bad news is I know virtually nothing about "Winamp." 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