Hi, For those wanting to use WIN MX here is some sites to check out: to find out more visit http://groups.google.com/group/winmx4theblind Group email address winmx4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The preceding information was supplied by Simon Dowling creator and owner of the winmx4theblind mailing list. msn, simodowl@xxxxxxxxxxx skype, slifinger He is also the creator of the tutorial that many has requested from myself. Rich