Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:14:21 -0800
Tim,
Not being smarmy here, but why not send your "Memo to FS" direct to
suggestions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I wouldn't presume that the powers-that-be at FS are reading all this E-Mail
traffic.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <tim@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:25
Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
Freedom Scientific needs to put more of their time into the quality of their
products than into suing their competitors. This is one reason Freedom
Scientific has been successful thus far. Rather than produce a product that
everyone wants they are suing their way to success.
Memo to FS: the current methods being employed in bringing technological
breakthroughs to the masses do not involve generating more freedom and they
are not very scientific.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
not to mention that whenever you update your operationg system, you have to
go through authorization again
On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Tim wrote:
> Most pieces of software only make you reauthorize if you change a
> significant piece of hardware--a motherboard or perhaps a hard drive.
> Adding or removing a stick of RAM should not be a cause for concern. Nor
> should plugging in a USB device. Think about it. Microsoft does not make
> you reauthorize your Operating System just because you plug in a USB
> device. Neither do all of your other programs. The computer world would
> grind to a halt if this were the case.
>
> The irony of this whole situation is that Freedom Scientific designed
> their software this way. Despite this fact they punish people for using
> too many reauthorizations. We should expect more from a program that costs
> somewhere around $1,000 with constant expensive upgrades.
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>
>
> you like making there scheems so that when you change a hardware device in
> your pc you have to reauthorize again?
>
> On Dec 21, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
>
>> Some of us, myself included, are absolutely fed up with Freedom
>> Scientific's policies and certain aspects of their products. Many times,
>> change only comes when customers demand it. This is not whining. Freedom
>> Scientific has been nickle and diming its customers to death and giving
>> them bad user agreements for years and it is time that they know that we
>> know that there are alternatives out there.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>
>>
>> here we go again;
>> it wasn't good enough to announce your departure on the other list?
>>
>> are you still looking for followers?
>>
>> are you ever going to stop wining?
>> so use your NVDA, who cares.
>>
>> I have 4 screen readers on this machine,
>> although jaws is my primary reader.
>>
>> if your gonna leave, go quietly.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
>> <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> I understand now. It's called NVDA. This is all I will say since this
>>> would be inappropriate.
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>> You can contact me at the following channels:
>>> E-mail and Facebook: challsworth2@xxxxxxx
>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>
>>> On 21/12/2010 12:43, Zdenek Vopat wrote:
>>>> what screen readingg software are you going to use?
>>>> Zdenek
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "chris hallsworth"<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> I don't understand.
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>>>> You can contact me at the following channels:
>>>>> E-mail and Facebook: challsworth2@xxxxxxx
>>>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/12/2010 12:13, Zdenek Vopat wrote:
>>>>>> hello Chirss:
>>>>>> is thatsoftware that you are going to use and that is more stable
>>>>>> NVDA?
>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>> Zdenek
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "chris hallsworth"<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>>>> I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom
>>>>>>> Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes.
>>>>>>> Some
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to
>>>>>>> license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other
>>>>>>> commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked.
>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>> JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization
>>>>>>> keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for
>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>> and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the
>>>>>>> technical,
>>>>>>> I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is
>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>> according to my personal experience.
>>>>>>> Sorry for the rant but you did suggest I state publicly my reasons.
>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> there you go.
>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>>>>>> You can contact me at the following channels:
>>>>>>> E-mail and Facebook: challsworth2@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
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