Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 06:17:59 -0700

Christopher,

Thanks. Something about the way you phrased it allowed me to understand 
better this time. I think I'll go ahead and try using that trick, after all, 
even though I never log off and back on, and don't hear anything from Jaws 
usually after I click on That Down except for the single word "unavailable," 
which Jaws blurts out at some point. Because sometimes I have to shut down 
because some application refuses to let me exit it, and prevents me from 
doing anything else with the computer at that point. That's when I get that 
running processes dialogue as if I'd deliberately tried to end a running 
process using control alt delete, and it helps if Jaws is speaking at that 
point. Sometimes it is speaking in that situation and sometimes it isn't. 
I'm partial and can see that the dialogue's there, and know from experience 
that it's the End process now? dialogue even though I can't read what it 
says.

Just thinking out loud. Could you give me the way to get that instruction 
again so I can rewrite the command in my shortcut properties? May as well 
just do it. No harm, I'm sure.

Thanks for the patience,

Daniel

From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service


What I was thinking is this. Say JAWS has crashed, or, like you said,
someone wanted to use the computer with JAWS turned off. Well, if you
restart JAWS in the normal way (i.e. from the original shortcut or
hotkey that the shortcut's assigned to), JAWS will load as an
application rather than a service. Now, if JAWS runs as an application,
it will unload during the shutdown service, meaning it won't speak
through the shutdown process. JAWS will also not speak when you're asked
for a password to log back into Windows or any other Windows-based log
on screen, such as the one that displays when you turn your computer
back on after a standby or hybernation procedure. If JAWS runs as a
service, however, JAWS will speak, even at the log in prompts and shut
down screen. So this is why I thought this tip would be very useful, so
that you can restart JAWS manually, and it will still speak the above.
Hope this clears any confusions you had.
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:12:08 -0700, "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
said:
> hello.
>
> I'm not quite clear how this works. For one thing, I already have Jaws
> set
> to load on startup (isn't that as a "service?"). So, the only time I use
> my
> shortcut (actually, I tend more often to use control alt j and not the
> icon,
> because I don't need Jaws running to find it!). But I don't understand
> the
> point of doing this. I'm missing something, maybe? Again, the only time I
> start Jaws manually at all is when I've exited it for some reason, like
> that
> a sighted friend's been using the computer and preferred it to be
> actually
> off, not just have the volume turned down. So they could use the Web
> properly, for instance, without the interference of the virtual buffer
> screen. Normal enough. But then, if they don't remember to restart jaws
> (there's a toilet seat joke in there somewhere, with screen reader users
> being the female and sighted computer user friends being the males), then
> I
> just hit my shortcut key combo and it launches. And, if I shut down, next
> time I boot up, it loads as a service, as usual. Unless this isn't what
> "service" means?
>
> Okay, that's one question. The other is, if my Jaws is already loading on
> startup, then how come it doesn't already keep speaking all the way
> through
> the Windows shutdown sequence, until the screen goes dark?
>
> Maybe you can see the source of my confusion in my questions. I hope.
> Educated  me, please.
>
> Thanks.
> cirtual  enitrely,from the desktop or but that isn't my pointcla
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS-Users" <jaws-users-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:41 AM
> Subject: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
>
>
> Hi all,
> I've recently discovered that there is a way to manually start JAWS as a
> service using the JAWS shortcut placed on the desktop once JAWS is
> installed. Here's how to do it:
> 1. Go to the desktop with Windows M
> 2. Press j until JAWS <version> (where <version> is the version(s) of
> JAWS you've installed, such as JAWS 8.0).
> 3. Press alt enter to open the JAWS properties. The JAWS properties
> dialogue box appears, with the target edit field in focus.
> 4. Delete what's in the target field and type the following, exactly as
> shown:
> net start jfwservice
> 5. Press enter.
> 6. Press F5 to refresh your desktop.
> To test this:
> 1. Unload JAWS with insert F4 and enter.
> 2. Go to the desktop and press enter on the JAWS icon whose properties
> you have modified.
> 3. Although JAWS will load as expected, you'll notice that unlike the
> regular shortcut that's placed after you've installed JAWS, JAWS will
> speak even after you've logged off windows!
> Hope this tip is of some use! David, you may want to put this up on your
> site for those who are interested. Enjoy!
> Christopher Hallsworth
> E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype name chrishallsworth7266
> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
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