Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service

  • From: "Steve Boodram" <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:57:33 -0400

Hello Chris, I just backspace once as soon as I am in the edit field and
paste the syntax line which I copied from the message. Hope that works and
helps.
Phone: 1-868-636-3519
Fax: 1-868-679-1001
Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service


> Hi. I hate to extend this thread any longer than it's already gone,
> because let's face it this has been a pretty long thread.  But  i
> noticed something, and I wanted to make **absolutely** sure that I'm
> doing this right.  In the target edit field of JAWS 8, the path is in
> quotes i.e.
> c:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\8.0\jfw.exe"
> Notice those quote marks at the beginning, and at the end of the path.
>
> So, if I replace that path with, net start jfwservice, should that be
> in quotes as well, or just leave it as is?
>    Like I say, I want to make absolutely sure this is being done
correctly.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> At 10:30 AM 6/30/2007, you wrote:
> >hope i'm not imagining things. except once i think, i experience no
> >more crashes on my almost worn out school laptop eversince i'm
> >running jfw as a service, something i ran into every now and then
> >previously when i loaded jaws as an application.
> >i remember the time jaws crashed, relaunching it via the shortcutkey
> >i created, had jaws up and running again which wasn't the case
> >previously until i restarted the machine.
> >thanks again for sharing.
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth"
> ><chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:24 PM
> >Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> >
> >
> >>OK. When JAWS runs as an application, it will not speak at the log on
> >>prompts, nor will it speak in any other Windows-based password
> >>dialogues, such as when you unlock your computer. JAWS will also quit
> >>before Windows shuts down, making you have no speech during the shut
> >>down process. However, if JAWS runs as a service then it will speak
> >>those, plus it will speak until your computer's shut down. Hope this
> >>helps.
> >>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:39:28 -0400, "Steve Boodram"
> >><steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> >>>Hello Chris, I did it. I thought the spaces were not part of the syntax
> >>>line. Now, hope you're not getting impatient with me, but what benefits
> >>>will
> >>>I see as oppose to running JAWS as an application rather than a
service.
> >>>Again, please let me apologize to all for probably asking a question
that
> >>>was already asked and answered, but i missed it because I was having
> >>>server
> >>>problems and had to wipe everything from my gmail inbox and lost the
> >>>post.
> >>>Thanks again.
> >>>Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> >>>Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> >>>Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> >>>e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:49 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Steve, are you sure you typed:
> >>> >
> >>> > net start jfwservice
> >>> >
> >>> > and nothing else? The above line must be typed exactly as shown
> >>> > otherwise you will get that message.
> >>> > On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:50:31 -0400, "Steve Boodram"
> >>> > <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> >>> > > Hi Chris, I tried that and it didn't work. I am getting a
> >>> message > > called
> >>> > > invalid pathname or something like that. Am I doing something
> >>> wrong? > > I
> >>> > > typed
> >>> > > in the correct path, but still no luck.
> >>> > > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> >>> > > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> >>> > > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> >>> > > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:02 PM
> >>> > > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > Open the JAWS shortcut properties and in the target field type
net
> >>>start
> >>> > > > jfwservice and hit enter.
> >>> > > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:11:09 -0400, "Steve Boodram"
> >>> > > > <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> >>> > > > > Hi, I was having server problems with gmail and had to delete
the
> >>> > > > > contents of my inbox. I lost the message that gave the steps
for
> >>> > > starting
> >>> > > > > JAWS as a service. Could someone please repost? Thanks.
> >>> > > > > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> >>> > > > > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> >>> > > > > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> >>> > > > > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > > > >   From: Don Moore
> >>> > > > >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >   Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:27 AM
> >>> > > > >   Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As
> >>> a > > > > Service
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >   Hi,
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >       I have been following this thread with great
> >>> interest and > > > > it
> >>>seems
> >>> > > > >       that the advantage of starting JAWS as a service
> >>> instead of > > > > an
> >>> > > > >       application is that JAWS loads sooner and,
> >>> therefore, you > > > > get
> >>>more
> >>> > > > >       information while booting up your computer and you also
get
> >>>more
> >>> > > > >       information reported by JAWS when shutting down
> >>> your > > > > computer.
> >>> > > > >       Please correct me if I am wrong.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >       Furthermore, is it correct that starting JAWS
automatically
> >>> > > > >       accomplishes the same thing as replacing the path in the
> >>>Desktop
> >>> > > > >       shortcut for JAWS and, if so, does JAWS have to be
running
> >>>from
> >>> > > the
> >>> > > > >       System Tray as well to accomplish this?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >       Thanks in advance for enlightening me,
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >       Don
> >>> > > > >     ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > > > >     From: Moti Azrad
> >>> > > > >     To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >     Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:06 AM
> >>> > > > >     Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS
> >>> As a > > > > Service
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >     Hi all,
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >     I didn't read this thread from the beginning but wish
> >>> to > > > > know:
> >>> > > > >     What is the plus to use Jaws as a service and not as an
> >>>application?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >     Thanks
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >     Moti
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >     Moti Azrad
> >>> > > > >     Musician & Piano-Tuner
> >>> > > > >     motia@xxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >     azrad_moty@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >     motiaz@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >     Israel
> >>> > > > >       ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > > > >       From: Christopher Bartlett
> >>> > > > >       To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >       Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:20 PM
> >>> > > > >       Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a
> >>>Service
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >       Is there a way to have JFW come up as a service
initially?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >                Christopher Bartlett
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >       At 03:50 AM 6/27/2007, you wrote:
> >>> > > > >       >What I was thinking is this. Say JAWS has crashed,
> >>> or, > > > > like
> >>>you
> >>> > > said,
> >>> > > > >       >someone wanted to use the computer with JAWS turned
off.
> >>>Well, if
> >>> > > you
> >>> > > > >       >restart JAWS in the normal way (i.e. from the original
> >>>shortcut
> >>> > > or
> >>> > > > >       >hotkey that the shortcut's assigned to), JAWS will
> >>> load as > > > > an
> >>> > > > >       >application rather than a service. Now, if JAWS runs as
an
> >>> > > application,
> >>> > > > >       >it will unload during the shutdown service,
> >>> meaning it > > > > won't
> >>> > > speak
> >>> > > > >       >through the shutdown process. JAWS will also not
> >>> speak > > > > when
> >>> > > you're asked
> >>> > > > >       >for a password to log back into Windows or any other
> >>> > > Windows-based log
> >>> > > > >       >on screen, such as the one that displays when you
> >>> turn > > > > your
> >>> > > computer
> >>> > > > >       >back on after a standby or hybernation procedure. If
JAWS
> >>>runs as
> >>> > > a
> >>> > > > >       >service, however, JAWS will speak, even at the log
> >>> in > > > > prompts
> >>>and
> >>> > > shut
> >>> > > > >       >down screen. So this is why I thought this tip
> >>> would be > > > > very
> >>> > > useful, so
> >>> > > > >       >that you can restart JAWS manually, and it will
> >>> still > > > > speak
> >>>the
> >>> > > above.
> >>> > > > >       >Hope this clears any confusions you had.
> >>> > > > >       >On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:12:08 -0700, "Yardbird"
> >>> > > <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > > >       >said:
> >>> > > > >       > > hello.
> >>> > > > >       > >
> >>> > > > >       > > I'm not quite clear how this works. For one thing, I
> >>>already
> >>> > > have Jaws
> >>> > > > >       > > set
> >>> > > > >       > > to load on startup (isn't that as a
> >>> "service?"). So, > > > > the
> >>>only
> >>> > > time I use
> >>> > > > >       > > my
> >>> > > > >       > > shortcut (actually, I tend more often to use
> >>> control > > > > alt j
> >>>and
> >>> > > not the
> >>> > > > >       > > icon,
> >>> > > > >       > > because I don't need Jaws running to find it!). But
I
> >>>don't
> >>> > > understand
> >>> > > > >       > > the
> >>> > > > >       > > point of doing this. I'm missing something,
> >>> maybe? > > > > Again,
> >>>the
> >>> > > only time I
> >>> > > > >       > > start Jaws manually at all is when I've exited
> >>> it for > > > > some
> >>> > > reason, like
> >>> > > > >       > > that
> >>> > > > >       > > a sighted friend's been using the computer
> >>> and > > > > preferred
> >>>it to
> >>> > > be
> >>> > > > >       > > actually
> >>> > > > >       > > off, not just have the volume turned down. So
> >>> they > > > > could
> >>>use
> >>> > > the Web
> >>> > > > >       > > properly, for instance, without the interference of
the
> >>> > > virtual buffer
> >>> > > > >       > > screen. Normal enough. But then, if they don't
> >>> remember > > > > to
> >>> > > restart jaws
> >>> > > > >       > > (there's a toilet seat joke in there somewhere, with
> >>>screen
> >>> > > reader users
> >>> > > > >       > > being the female and sighted computer user
> >>> friends > > > > being
> >>>the
> >>> > > males), then
> >>> > > > >       > > I
> >>> > > > >       > > just hit my shortcut key combo and it launches.
> >>> And, if > > > > I
> >>>shut
> >>> > > down, next
> >>> > > > >       > > time I boot up, it loads as a service, as usual.
Unless
> >>>this
> >>> > > isn't what
> >>> > > > >       > > "service" means?
> >>> > > > >       > >
> >>> > > > >       > > Okay, that's one question. The other is, if my Jaws
is
> >>>already
> >>> > > loading on
> >>> > > > >       > > startup, then how come it doesn't already keep
speaking
> >>>all
> >>> > > the way
> >>> > > > >       > > through
> >>> > > > >       > > the Windows shutdown sequence, until the screen
> >>> goes > > > > dark?
> >>> > > > >       > >
> >>> > > > >       > > Maybe you can see the source of my confusion in my
> >>>questions.
> >>> > > I hope.
> >>> > > > >       > > Educated  me, please.
> >>> > > > >       > >
> >>> > > > >       > > Thanks.
> >>> > > > >       > > cirtual  enitrely,from the desktop or but that isn't
my
> >>> > > pointcla
> >>> > > > >       > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > > > >       > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth"
> >>> > > <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > > >       > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS-Users"
> >>> > > <jaws-users-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > > >       > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:41 AM
> >>> > > > >       > > Subject: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a
> >>>Service
> >>> > > > >       > >
> >>> > > > >       > >
> >>> > > > >       > > Hi all,
> >>> > > > >       > > I've recently discovered that there is a way
> >>> to > > > > manually
> >>>start
> >>> > > JAWS as a
> >>> > > > >       > > service using the JAWS shortcut placed on the
> >>> desktop > > > > once
> >>> > > JAWS is
> >>> > > > >       > > installed. Here's how to do it:
> >>> > > > >       > > 1. Go to the desktop with Windows M
> >>> > > > >       > > 2. Press j until JAWS <version> (where <version> is
the
> >>> > > version(s) of
> >>> > > > >       > > JAWS you've installed, such as JAWS 8.0).
> >>> > > > >       > > 3. Press alt enter to open the JAWS properties.
> >>> The > > > > JAWS
> >>> > > properties
> >>> > > > >       > > dialogue box appears, with the target edit
> >>> field in > > > > focus.
> >>> > > > >       > > 4. Delete what's in the target field and type the
> >>>following,
> >>> > > exactly as
> >>> > > > >       > > shown:
> >>> > > > >       > > net start jfwservice
> >>> > > > >       > > 5. Press enter.
> >>> > > > >       > > 6. Press F5 to refresh your desktop.
> >>> > > > >       > > To test this:
> >>> > > > >       > > 1. Unload JAWS with insert F4 and enter.
> >>> > > > >       > > 2. Go to the desktop and press enter on the JAWS
icon
> >>>whose
> >>> > > properties
> >>> > > > >       > > you have modified.
> >>> > > > >       > > 3. Although JAWS will load as expected, you'll
> >>> notice > > > > that
> >>> > > unlike the
> >>> > > > >       > > regular shortcut that's placed after you've
installed
> >>>JAWS,
> >>> > > JAWS will
> >>> > > > >       > > speak even after you've logged off windows!
> >>> > > > >       > > Hope this tip is of some use! David, you may
> >>> want to > > > > put
> >>>this
> >>> > > up on your
> >>> > > > >       > > site for those who are interested. Enjoy!
> >>> > > > >       > > Christopher Hallsworth
> >>> > > > >       > > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >       > > Skype name chrishallsworth7266
> >>> > > > >       > > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >       > >
> >>> > > > >       > > --
> >>> > > > >       > > JFW related links:
> >>> > > > >       > > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
> >>> > > > >       > > Scripting mailing list:
> >>> > > > >       > >
> >>> > > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
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> >>> > > > >       > > To post a message to the list, send it to
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> >>> > > > >       > > --
> >>> > > > >       > > JFW related links:
> >>> > > > >       > > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
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> >>> > > > >       > >
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> >>> > > > >       >Christopher Hallsworth
> >>> > > > >       >E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >       >Skype name chrishallsworth7266
> >>> > > > >       >MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > > >       >
> >>> > > > >       >--
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> >>> > > > >       >JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
> >>> > > > >       >Scripting mailing list:
> >>> > > > >
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Rather
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> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > JFW related links:
> >>> > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
> >>> > Scripting mailing list:
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> >>>JFW List instructions:
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