hope i'm not imagining things. except once i think, i experience no more crashes on my almost worn out school laptop eversince i'm running jfw as a service, something i ran into every now and then previously when i loaded jaws as an application. i remember the time jaws crashed, relaunching it via the shortcutkey i created, had jaws up and running again which wasn't the case previously until i restarted the machine.
thanks again for sharing.----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
OK. When JAWS runs as an application, it will not speak at the log on prompts, nor will it speak in any other Windows-based password dialogues, such as when you unlock your computer. JAWS will also quit before Windows shuts down, making you have no speech during the shut down process. However, if JAWS runs as a service then it will speak those, plus it will speak until your computer's shut down. Hope this helps. On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:39:28 -0400, "Steve Boodram" <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:Hello Chris, I did it. I thought the spaces were not part of the syntax line. Now, hope you're not getting impatient with me, but what benefits will I see as oppose to running JAWS as an application rather than a service. Again, please let me apologize to all for probably asking a question that was already asked and answered, but i missed it because I was having server problems and had to wipe everything from my gmail inbox and lost the post. Thanks again. Phone: 1-868-636-3519 Fax: 1-868-679-1001 Mobile: 1-868-730-8377 e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service > Steve, are you sure you typed: > > net start jfwservice > > and nothing else? The above line must be typed exactly as shown > otherwise you will get that message. > On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:50:31 -0400, "Steve Boodram" > <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:> > Hi Chris, I tried that and it didn't work. I am getting a message > > called > > invalid pathname or something like that. Am I doing something wrong? > > I> > typed > > in the correct path, but still no luck. > > Phone: 1-868-636-3519 > > Fax: 1-868-679-1001 > > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377 > > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:02 PM > > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service > > > > > > > Open the JAWS shortcut properties and in the target field type net start > > > jfwservice and hit enter. > > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:11:09 -0400, "Steve Boodram" > > > <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said: > > > > Hi, I was having server problems with gmail and had to delete the > > > > contents of my inbox. I lost the message that gave the steps for > > starting > > > > JAWS as a service. Could someone please repost? Thanks. > > > > Phone: 1-868-636-3519 > > > > Fax: 1-868-679-1001 > > > > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377 > > > > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Don Moore > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:27 AM> > > > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a > > > > Service> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > >> > > > I have been following this thread with great interest and > > > > itseems> > > > that the advantage of starting JAWS as a service instead of > > > > an > > > > application is that JAWS loads sooner and, therefore, you > > > > getmore > > > > information while booting up your computer and you also get more> > > > information reported by JAWS when shutting down your > > > > computer.> > > > Please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > Furthermore, is it correct that starting JAWS automatically > > > > accomplishes the same thing as replacing the path in the Desktop > > > > shortcut for JAWS and, if so, does JAWS have to be running from > > the > > > > System Tray as well to accomplish this? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for enlightening me, > > > > > > > > Don > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Moti Azrad > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:06 AM> > > > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a > > > > Service> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > >> > > > I didn't read this thread from the beginning but wish to > > > > know:> > > > What is the plus to use Jaws as a service and not as an application? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Moti > > > > > > > > Moti Azrad > > > > Musician & Piano-Tuner > > > > motia@xxxxxxx > > > > azrad_moty@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > motiaz@xxxxxxxxx > > > > Israel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Christopher Bartlett > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:20 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to have JFW come up as a service initially? > > > > > > > > Christopher Bartlett > > > > > > > > At 03:50 AM 6/27/2007, you wrote:> > > > >What I was thinking is this. Say JAWS has crashed, or, > > > > likeyou > > said, > > > > >someone wanted to use the computer with JAWS turned off. Well, if > > you > > > > >restart JAWS in the normal way (i.e. from the original shortcut > > or> > > > >hotkey that the shortcut's assigned to), JAWS will load as > > > > an> > > > >application rather than a service. Now, if JAWS runs as an > > application,> > > > >it will unload during the shutdown service, meaning it > > > > won't> > speak> > > > >through the shutdown process. JAWS will also not speak > > > > when> > you're asked > > > > >for a password to log back into Windows or any other > > Windows-based log> > > > >on screen, such as the one that displays when you turn > > > > your> > computer > > > > >back on after a standby or hybernation procedure. If JAWS runs as > > a> > > > >service, however, JAWS will speak, even at the log in > > > > promptsand > > shut> > > > >down screen. So this is why I thought this tip would be > > > > very> > useful, so> > > > >that you can restart JAWS manually, and it will still > > > > speakthe > > above. > > > > >Hope this clears any confusions you had. > > > > >On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:12:08 -0700, "Yardbird" > > <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >said: > > > > > > hello. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not quite clear how this works. For one thing, I already > > have Jaws > > > > > > set> > > > > > to load on startup (isn't that as a "service?"). So, > > > > theonly > > time I use > > > > > > my> > > > > > shortcut (actually, I tend more often to use control > > > > alt jand > > not the > > > > > > icon, > > > > > > because I don't need Jaws running to find it!). But I don't > > understand > > > > > > the> > > > > > point of doing this. I'm missing something, maybe? > > > > Again,the > > only time I> > > > > > start Jaws manually at all is when I've exited it for > > > > some> > reason, like > > > > > > that> > > > > > a sighted friend's been using the computer and > > > > preferredit to > > be > > > > > > actually> > > > > > off, not just have the volume turned down. So they > > > > coulduse > > the Web > > > > > > properly, for instance, without the interference of the > > virtual buffer> > > > > > screen. Normal enough. But then, if they don't remember > > > > to> > restart jaws > > > > > > (there's a toilet seat joke in there somewhere, with screen > > reader users> > > > > > being the female and sighted computer user friends > > > > beingthe > > males), then > > > > > > I> > > > > > just hit my shortcut key combo and it launches. And, if > > > > Ishut > > down, next > > > > > > time I boot up, it loads as a service, as usual. Unless this > > isn't what > > > > > > "service" means? > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, that's one question. The other is, if my Jaws is already > > loading on > > > > > > startup, then how come it doesn't already keep speaking all > > the way > > > > > > through> > > > > > the Windows shutdown sequence, until the screen goes > > > > dark?> > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you can see the source of my confusion in my questions. > > I hope. > > > > > > Educated me, please. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > cirtual enitrely,from the desktop or but that isn't my > > pointcla > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" > > <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS-Users" > > <jaws-users-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:41 AM > > > > > > Subject: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > I've recently discovered that there is a way to > > > > manuallystart > > JAWS as a> > > > > > service using the JAWS shortcut placed on the desktop > > > > once> > JAWS is > > > > > > installed. Here's how to do it: > > > > > > 1. Go to the desktop with Windows M > > > > > > 2. Press j until JAWS <version> (where <version> is the > > version(s) of > > > > > > JAWS you've installed, such as JAWS 8.0).> > > > > > 3. Press alt enter to open the JAWS properties. The > > > > JAWS> > properties> > > > > > dialogue box appears, with the target edit field in > > > > focus.> > > > > > 4. Delete what's in the target field and type the following, > > exactly as > > > > > > shown: > > > > > > net start jfwservice > > > > > > 5. Press enter. > > > > > > 6. Press F5 to refresh your desktop. > > > > > > To test this: > > > > > > 1. Unload JAWS with insert F4 and enter. > > > > > > 2. Go to the desktop and press enter on the JAWS icon whose > > properties > > > > > > you have modified.> > > > > > 3. Although JAWS will load as expected, you'll notice > > > > that> > unlike the > > > > > > regular shortcut that's placed after you've installed JAWS, > > JAWS will > > > > > > speak even after you've logged off windows!> > > > > > Hope this tip is of some use! David, you may want to > > > > putthis > > up on your > > > > > > site for those who are interested. Enjoy! > > > > > > Christopher Hallsworth > > > > > > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Skype name chrishallsworth7266 > > > > > > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JFW related links: > > > > > > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > > > > > > Scripting mailing list: > > > > > > > > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > > > > > > JFW List instructions: > > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message > > > > to > > > > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in > > > > the> > subject line.> > > > > > Archives located at: > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw> > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from > > the list, or > > > > > > the> > > > > > way the list is being run, do not post them to the > > > > list.> > Rather contact > > > > > > the > > > > > > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - > > > > ReleaseDate: > > 6/26/2007 > > > > > > 10:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JFW related links: > > > > > > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > > > > > > Scripting mailing list: > > > > > > > > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > > > > > > JFW List instructions: > > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message > > > > to > > > > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in > > > > the> > subject line.> > > > > > Archives located at: > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw> > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from > > the list, or > > > > > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. > > Rather > > > > > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Christopher Hallsworth > > > > >E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >Skype name chrishallsworth7266 > > > > >MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >JFW related links: > > > > >JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > > > > >Scripting mailing list: > > > > >http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > > > > >JFW List instructions:> > > > >To post a message to the list, send it to > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the > > subject line. > > > > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > > >> > > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received > > > > fromthe> > > > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them > > > > tothe > > > > >list. 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