Re: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
- From: "Sun Sparkle" <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:14:58 -0500
well one thing is that jaws cant use the mouse like another screen reader i
know of!
I saw that feature in use here a while ago and i will just say hands down
well jaws is a great screen reader but there are just somethings jaws can't
do at this time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
> Hi, I use the scripting langwige all the time and you and all other jaws
> user binafit from this langwige wether or not you code in it or not.
> Every time you run winamp every time you use word every time you read a
> msn message use are making use of a script. Every time you get on the
> net you are making use of a script. The power of the program allows you
> to have access to all of these programs. The power of the scripting
> langwige allows you to use all of these programs with more access then
> any other screen reader. Now I am not trying to beet the jaws drum but
> facts are facts. The fact is jaws gives better access to more things
> more of the time. If you are running a stable system jaws tends to run
> fine. Are there stability issues yes you bet your pants there are. Is
> that the most emportant thing no. Giving access to the most programs in
> a way that the new user can use and understand is the most emprotant
> thing. If stability was the most emprotant thing none of us would have
> ever left dos and are dos screen readers. The fact is that we need
> access we need it now and the bugs can be worked out as we go. Now the
> office issues were solved first because that is what most people are
> using in there jobs. Office xp is the most widly used program in most
> jobs held by most blind people from what I understand the version most
> widely used is office xp so office xp was the focus. Now my beef is
> this I need the remoat desktop access I needed it six months ago and I
> still do not have it in jaws but window eyes users have it. So lets
> complain about access we do not have. Also fs is very picky on how
> scripts should look. As long as they get the job done fs should start
> posting every script out there with a disclaimer that they did not write
> them as gw micro does. We need more and more access not a bunch of
> users complaining that they might have to reboot there systems once and
> a while my god winamp makes me do that all the time and it is one of the
> most popular programs on the net.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Troy Burnham
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:45 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
>
>
> I have to agree with Steve here. I don't know what percentage of Jaws
> users are power users as they call them but I certainly am not and I
> personally don't know anybody who is. Smile.
> Troy
>
>
>
> On Saturday 8/21/2004 01:51 PM, Steve said:
> >Yes, Jim, the scripting language is nice... But, it is only used by
> >probably 5% of JFW users; it is more difficult to write scripts.
> >
> >I have a game that Window Eyes recognizes fine, but I can't get JFW to
> >tell me
> >the card suits. I am not a scripter, other than making simple mods to
> >existing scripts. But, the writing of set files in WE is simpler,
> though far
> >less flexible than JFW's scripting language.
> >
> >But, I think most users would rather have something stable and then
> >have something with a lot of power or bells and whistles.
> >
> >Admittedly, both have stability issues. But, it appears there are far
> >more with JFW than with Window Eyes.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
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