RE: The Next Version Number?

  • From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:34:22 -0700

Did  so and yes they were.  How ever the moderator is god so when god
speaks we must obey.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of James
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:05 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?


Take a look at the last 5-10 posts by yourself alone, and tell me if
*that* 
is JAWS related. I think not. That's why.
At 03:00 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
>Hi, understood will not post fother on this subject.
>May I respectfully ask the moderator how ever why he is putting a cap 
>on this subject.  It is clearly jaws related in nature. Thanks!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>Behalf Of James
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:36 AM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?
>
>
>We can't carry i much farther... because it ends, here.
>At 12:20 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
> >Aaaah come on guys!  How far can we carry this topic!  Sheesh!
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:13 PM
> >Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > This is true. The point I was making is that from a programming 
> > > perspective an upgrade is always a change is the main version 
> > > number. And an update is a change in the version number after the 
> > > point.  So even a change in build number is an update. Hth 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:39 AM
> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?
> > >
> > >
> > > Something about this update/upgrade thing. It's a distinction that

> > > GW Micro uses, but I have not seen FS make that distinction. To 
> > > the best of
> > >
> > > my understanding, FS tends to use upgrade to describe all version 
> > > changes, but they use the term major and minor upgrades. JFW 4, 
> > > 4.5,
>
> > > 5, I think 5.1, and 6 were major uppgrades, i.e. required a SMA. 
> > > 4.01, 4.02, 4.51, and 6.1 (and 6.2 from what I understand) are 
> > > minor
>
> > > upgrades. FS doesn't exactly follow a patern with version numbers.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bruce Toews
> > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx Web Site 
> > > (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net 
> > > Info
>
> > > on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> > >
> > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Dave Durber wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Jim:
> > > >
> > > > Swap the letter A as in "a upgrade" for the word an as in "an 
> > > > upgrade".
> > > >
> > > > The way that you are using the letter A in your messages, makes 
> > > > the upgrade sound as if an upgrade is an indefinite article, 
> > > > which
>
> > > > it is not.
> > > >
> > > > sincerely:
> > > >
> > > > Dave Durber
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:56:03 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> No this is not true
> > > >> It is not always true that a update must be free.  A update is 
> > > >> always
> > >
> > > >> a major version change from 6 to 7 an update it a change in the

> > > >> point
> > >
> > > >> it has nothing to do with the cost of the program. Hth
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chipmunks
> > > >> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:46 PM
> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> With previous versions of jaws, e.g. 3.5 to 3.7.x or 4.0.x to 
> > > >> 4.5.x, an upgrade was one where the number behind the period 
> > > >> changed. It was
> > >
> > > >> only with jaws 5.x and 6.x that an upgrade was a change from 
> > > >> 5.x to 6.x and now from 6.x to 7.x.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think it depends on the companies policcy and version 
> > > >> numbering. An
> > >
> > > >> upgrade counts against a sma, a minor update does not.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> Doris
> > > >>
> > > >> At 10:00 AM 6/20/2005 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>> A upgraid in software terms is when the version number it self

> > > >>> before the point changes so a upgrade is 6 to 7. A update on a

> > > >>> program is anything that causes the version number after the 
> > > >>> point to change so a update is 6.0 6.1 and so on Hth 
> > > >>> -----Original
> > > >>> Message-----
> > > >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > >>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>On
> > > >>> Behalf Of Yardbird
> > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:45 AM
> > > >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi Margaret,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Just read Eric's own message here, giving the details of 
> > > >>> changes
>
> > > >>> in the
> > > >>
> > > >>> update.  Why is everyone discussing this in the first place? 
> > > >>> Weeks ago,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> someone mentioned that an update would soon be coming out, and

> > > >>> that Eric had announced it at a convention.  This was very 
> > > >>> clearly the announcement of an interim update, which is a 
> > > >>> regular sort of thing.
> > >
> > > >>> I believed it and didn't
> > > >>> give it another thought until the list became alive with 
> > > >>> rumors and questions, back and forth.  This could have been 
> > > >>> due to only
>
> > > >>> two
> > > >> things.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> One, maybe people aren't reading their list messages.  Two, 
> > > >>> maybe some people don't know the difference between the terms 
> > > >>> "update" and
> > >
> > > >>> "upgrade."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> They are not synonyms.  They don't mean the same thing.  An 
> > > >>> update is a
> > > >>
> > > >>> free modification to the current version of the program.  An 
> > > >>> upgrade
> > >
> > > >>> is
> > > >>
> > > >>> a new
> > > >>>
> > > >>> version or new release, whichever term you prefer.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hope this helps.
> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>> From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> > > >>> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:09 AM
> > > >>> Subject: Fw: The Next Version Number?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here is a post from Eric at FS clarifying the confusion about 
> > > >>> the next release of JAWS. Margaret
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>> From: "Eric Damery" <EricD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>> To: <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:56 AM
> > > >>> Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> During the next two weeks, we will post another Free Update 
> > > >>> for JAWS
> > >
> > > >>> 6.x users. This will be version 6.2 and in addition to many 
> > > >>> requested fixes, it will offer the ability to let a PAC Mate 
> > > >>> user control their PC and Desktop JAWS. This will include 
> > > >>> Keyboard in put, synthesizer, and Braille output all from the 
> > > >>> PAC Mate BX or QX models. There will be
> > > >>
> > > >>> more details on this shortly.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Following that, will be an SMA release in September. This will

> > > >>> be the version 7.0. Regards, Eric
> > > >>>
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