RE: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
- From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:54:46 -0500
Brandon:
I will attempt to give you the benefit of my experience with Word 2003. Of
course, with Word, there are numerous ways to do things, but I believe my
suggestions below will be helpful. Read on:
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Brandon Keith
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
I'm using word 2003.
I'm also wondering if there is any way to get rid of a few problems I've been
having.
First:
in word when I copy and paste a word that is misspelled word freezes up.
[[Ed said:] ]
I'm not entirely certain I can help here, but I do stress that when copying
from a variety of sources, use the "paste special" approach I mentioned
earlier. You may be picking up, not only formatting, but also styles (more
later). Certain stiles, like "Web Normal" cause erratic behavior. In fact, I
had a document flat lock up when I was trying to do a document compare. It was
not until I got rid of that "style" that the document behaved normally.
Also, your document may be corrupted. Here is how to fix that. Go to the last
piece of text (just a word. Remember it; you'll need to type it in later.
Then, put the cursor to the left and press control plus shift plus home. Then
copy out the text. Next, create a new, fresh document. Paste in, using paste
special (if appropriate) or if you need the formatting, control plus V.
Now, go to the end and type in that word you left out of your copy and paste
operation. You'll have a fresh document largely free of corruption.
Why do this? A serious amount of corruption seems to reside in the final
carriage return in Word documents. This insures that all that junk is left
behind.
Second:
When I copy WebPages or emails into word I have to remember to do that paste
special and even then http links don't work always. Is there a way so ctrl V
always does paste unformatted text in word? (I never have ever needed formatted
text).
[[Ed said:] ]
The paste special will always work if you use "unformatted Unicode text."
That, however, may not truly be the source of your multiple font problem. See
answer to next question (below).
Third:
I'm told that sometimes my papers are at least 5 different fonts and sizes. I'm
wondering if there is any way to easily fix this without removing say the MLA
formatted titles or page numbers?
[[Ed said:] ]
It sounds like you have lost control of what's happening in your documents.
Always proofread with a voice scheme that tells you font information. Press
Jaws key plus alt plus S. Then pick either "proofreading" or "classic with
fonts and attributes." "Proofreading" is preferable, but you have to get used
to what the different voices and voice inflections stand for. So, in the
beginning, use "classic with fonts and attributes." That takes the guess work
out of proofing.
Many people who started with Word Perfect think that direct formatting is the
way to format Word documents. It is not.
Word grudgingly allows direct formatting, but Word documents will be far more
stable if you use styles instead. There are not always sufficient styles for
every occasion, but for formatted papers the standard ones are not too bad, and
you can buy styles from third parties that offer styles. Finally, you can
create your own styles or modify those furnished by Word or third parties.
I won't cover how to create or modify styles here; however, to detect styles, I
suggest you turn on style announcement with JAWS plus V. Arrow down to the
styles announce option and turn it on.
To change styles, press control plus shift plus S. That will give you a
wonderful list. press down arrow and then use first letter navigation for
things like "body text," "normal," headings 1 through 9," "block text," and
many others. Then hit enter. The style will be applied to the next carriage
return.
I mention this because, even when you paste special, if you are pasting where
there are different styles or you are appending to text in some different font,
you'll get different results. Always use Jaws plus F before pasting to make
sure the resulting style/font is what you want.
Styles are wonderful, once you get used to them.
Here's another thought. If there are too many steps for paste special,
consider a JAWS script, a Word Macro, or assigning a Word shortcut key. I
haven't done this for paste special, but I have created custom short-cut keys
in Word for "accept change" and "reject change," operations that require lots
of tabbing around otherwise. Creating a short-cut key is also a bit much for
here, but they are totally slick.
Fourth:
Are there any settings that should be on in word for writing MLA?
[[Ed said:] ]
I'm a lawyer, long past academia, plus scholarly legal articles use their own
idiosyncratic format. I'll let someone else cover this, but I'd bet there are
Word styles out there you can obtain.
Fifth:
where is the best place to make a works sited page done that is very accessible
with Jaws?
[[Ed said:] ]
We lawyers call that a "Table of Authorities," and cite cases rather than
works. Check out the Word "help" here. It is very accessible. BTW, footnotes
are also very accessible. After you insert, however, it can be a little
difficult to get out of a footnote. I use the bypass key, Jaws plus 3, and
follow with shift plus alt plus C. That closes the footnote and puts me back
in the text of the brief.
Sixth:
is there any way to jump to headings in a word document?
[[Ed said:] ]
Well, the answer is "sort of." If your headings are, truly, headings using the
Word heading level styles, you're in luck. With "quick keys" on, Jaws key plus
Z, you can jump from heading to heading with the letter "H." You can jump from
level 1 to level 1 headings with the number 1. You can do the same for level 2
headings with 2. Don't forget to turn off "quick keys." Just press Jaws key
plus Z again. If the heading style wasn't used, I'm afraid
paragraph-by-paragraph is your best bet. That's control plus down arrow.
seventh:
sometimes my word doesn't read the last line on the page when I'm writing and
alt tabbing through different windows. When I arrow up it takes like a second
before it starts reading and then when I hit ctrl end I can't confirm I'm
actually at the end of the document.
[[Ed said:] ]
Sorry. I can't help you here.
eighth:
is there any way to easily navigate an e-text book in Word? Jump to pages or
find out what page of the book you are on without having to arrow through the
pages hoping the page numbers are actually there?
[[Ed said:] ]
Can't help here either. Sorry.
If you know a page number is depicted in a specific style, however, you might
be in luck. Arrow down to the first page number with style identification
turned on (as mentioned above). Press Jaws key plus F quickly to get the font
and style information to stick on the screen. Then examine and make note of
the style.
In the Word "find" box, be sure there is no text. Tab over to "more" and hit
enter. Then, press Alt plus O followed by "S".
Use first character navigation to get close and then arrow down to the desired
style to search for. Tab once and press space bar on OK.
Now execute "find next." You can then jump from that style repeatedly with
Shift plus F-4. I use this technique for identifying changes in DeltaView
comparison documents. It works great! The trick is for the page numbers to be
shown in a unique style.
ninth:
Has anyone been able to find a way to efficiently annotate books in a word
document? I've used cymbals such as *~* to mark quotes, but on the find it
doesn't always read the quote it's marking when I go through them.
Tenth:
Does anyone know how to tern off the function that replaces a document's name
in the save feature? If I go over another document when I'm trying to save
something the name I have already typed in the title field gets changed. I hate
this the most about my computer atm... So if this could be fixed it would be a
godsend!
[[Ed said:] ]
Sorry, we use a document management system that takes care of this problem
automatically.
Well, I hope I've helped a little.
Sorry for all the questions, I've just been thrashing walls trying to answer
many of these questions for the last 3 years and never have found the answers
[cid:684240519@31102010-016B] .
Thank you,
Brandon Keith
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From: Yadiel Sotomayor<mailto:yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:35 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Didn't knw that bit of paste special. I will remember that for next time.
Yadiel
From: Robert Logue<mailto:bobcat11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:03 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
http://www.jarte.com/
Jarte has a nice spell checker but not a thesaurus. However, you can press
control+d on a word to go to the wordweb entry for that word.
Jarte detects screen readers and configures it's interface for blind users.
There is a free version and a low cost paid version. I used the free one for a
long time. Check it out.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith<mailto:brandonboy13@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:00 PM
Subject: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Hello,
I was told and found that Notepad works way better with Jaws than Word does.
But I'm writing papers and whatnot in Notepad, but there is no thesaurus and I
don't believe any spellchecker.
Is there any way to beef up Notepad? Or are there any other text editors that
have the features of word?
Thank you,
Brandon Keith
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brandonkeith
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