Re: Temp and cookies was RE: multiple crashes query
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:06:54 -0700
Sounds as if this was a specific problem related to a specific cookie.
that's no reason to simply purge all your cookies, without discriminating
one from the other. I hope you just found the cookie for that site and
deleted it.
ou co----- Original Message -----
From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Temp and cookies was RE: multiple crashes query
Why delete them? When I had a bad pop-up ad problem, my last resort was
to write to my ISP, which suggested deleting cookies. It said sometimes
the command would get embedded there. I did and that did the trick.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Temp and cookies was RE: multiple crashes query
First, I have to say that I don't know how to sort cookies I like from
cookies I don't like. But second, I want to ask, and this seems to be
an
irreverent question, just what kind of horrible burden do people think
it
places on a multi-gigabyte modern hard drive to have, as I do, about 100
kilobytes of cookie files, or a couple of day's worth of temporary
internet
files on the hard drive.
For one thing, it is so easy to delete temporary internet files that
it's
just a standard option that can be done casually, anytime. To do it
from
the Control Panel or from within Internet Explorer, you just go to
Tools/Options,, on the general tab, press tab a few times until you hear
"temporary internet files delete files." Then press enter, then press
space
bar to also delete all such files being saved offline on your hard
drive,
press okay, then tab down to the Okay button that closes the menu when
you
press Enter on it.
Caution: don't press Enter on the option that first speaks, which will
say
"delete temporary files delete cookies," because this will delete all
your
cookies, indiscriminately, and you'll have one heck of a time re
registering
for every newspaper and commercial web sites you used to be able to just
get
onto without a hassle. Tab down one more time to hear "delete tem
internet
file delete files," because this is the one you want.
Anyway, I digress. The point is, with the huge amount of hard drive
space
nearly all of us have, why is there this belief that cleaning out a few
backup files or cookies or whatever is going to fix any problems or make
your system go like a racehorse? I don't get it. This sounds like
something that may have been useful ten or fifteen years ago with hard
drives that couldn't even have held the Jaws program. But what problem
is a
hundred, or two hundred kilobytes of cookies? Or is this some sort of
generalized fear of cookies?
The same goes for those temp files. While not as modest in size as
cookie
files, again, they probably are very far from overwhelming your
computer's
storage capacity. Before I upgraded to a new computer with 512 Mb. RAM,
which is considered pretty darn decent at this time, I was running just
128
Mb RAM for five years and an 18 gig hard drive, small by the latest
standard, and honestly, a few cookies or temp files weren't a burden on
*that* machine, either. there seems to be something fishy about this
refrain of delete your cookies, delete your temp files, do major
housekeeping on your hard drive, etc, every time a system crash occurs.
I
believe a technically savvy person is bound to explain that the problem
is
most likely a bad interaction or conflict among programs that's taking
place
in areas of Windows not many of us understand, where memory is allocated
and
swapped around and stuff, but "conflict" isn't the same as "not enough
RAM,"
or "not enough hard drive space."
that's all. Sorry to sound as if I'm ranting. I am not highly
sophisticated. I learn most of what I learn from good friends who are
computer professionals and from the NFB-sponsored GUI-Talk mailing list
where there also are savvy computer professionals, blind ones using
screen
readers., But I'm pretty sure that a lot of this preoccupation with
cookies,
temp files, and worrying that 512 Mb RAM may not be sufficient just
because
someone's running Jaws, is misplaced attention. What's needed is
someone
with professional computer skill to forward some more realistic
suggestions.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Feist" <ccfeist@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: Temp and cookies was RE: multiple crashes query
Hi. That's a good question. For me, I use a filtering program called
AdSubtract PRO to manage all my cookies. It's very JAWS friendly. I
can permanently select those cookies I want to keep and mark them as
"trusted" and then delete all other unwanted cookies at my leisure. I
can also easily delete temp files and history in this program but don't
think I can set any parameters to those deletions.
I think it's possible to configure anti-spyware programs such as
Ad-Aware to ignore certain cookies after running a scan but am not sure
of this. In fact, it was suggested to me on this list that deleting
your cookies in Ad-Aware won't necessarily get rid of "all" your cookies
but does rid you of the ones that are the kind you do not want on your
computer. I prefer to scrub my cookies with AdSubtract, though, before
running an Ad-Aware scan. I also use the AdSubtrac program to filter
pop-ups, advertisements, animations, automatic music downloads,
auto-refreshing, etc. For a user of JAWS, it makes navigation on the
Web a lot easier for me.
I wish IE was a bit more flexible when it comes to easily managing
cookies and the like, but so far I haven't found a quick and easy way to
do so in that particular Web browser. Of course, my knowledge of IE's
capabilities is quite limited, so don't take my word for it.
Chris Feist - The one and only!
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of STEPHEN FAIL
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:06 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: multiple crashes query
i have been paying attention to the multiple crashes question and
subsequent answers - one of which was very interesting and talked about
cleaning of temp and cookies folders. i have tried this in the past and
found that it did the job required and got rid of a lot of unnecessary
files but also got rid of my passwords and usernames for my internet
connection and passport for messenger - does anyone know of a way that i
can delete all these temp and cookies without removing the important
stuff as well? thanks in advance. stephen
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