I can tell you right now that's a farce, because I've got both versions installed fine by myself. When the life giver dies, all around is laied to waste. I live my last hour, I'm a slave to the power of death. ----- Original Message ----- From: James Dean To: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: Stay away from JAWS 5.0 and 5.1. Note: The below message is also being CC'd to the jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx list. Hi all. I found out something yesterday that I think all JAWS users should be aware of. If you are thinking of installing JAWS 5.0 or 5.1 on a Windows XP machine, don't do it! You'll need sighted assistance to fix it like I did. What happened is that Freedom scientific changed the way JAWS hooks to the screen. The only way you should try to install JAWS 5.0/5.1 is if you have at least version 6 of JAWS on your system, and do not remove the shared components. Even then, I wouldn't recommend it. In order to fix it, buy the way, you have to either do a system restore or boot the computer in to safe mode and remove the jhook file. Either way, you have to boot the PC up in to Safe mode because the computer can't display in normal mode. I don't know if this is true on all windows systems, but on my Windows XP Service Pack 2 machine it most certainly was! James MSN/Windows Messenger: jamesdean504@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: Semaj Yahoo: kg4RDF AIM: tootiki